I also thought that Kirk seemed too arrogant, especially in the Kobyashi Maru simulation scene.

The casting was great, except for maybe Scotty since Simon Pegg seems too familiar from other stuff.

I guess a lot of the time travel nonsense was a way to get Nimoy into the movie to provide some authenticity, which is somewhat reminiscent of ST:Generations.

I don't think that Kirk was portrayed as being overly-arrogant in the JJ film. If you recall ST:TOS, there were plenty of times when Kirk let his ego run wild. It wasn't until Kirk was significantly older (starting with ST II) that he became a lot more introspective and cognizant of his own mortality and limitations.

Pegg is a far better pick than Cho! I mean, I was thinking "Harold and Kumar Fight the Romulans" when I saw him.

Anyway, saying "this is better" is so purely subjective as to be meaningless. The fact is the new film was very successful, far more than the last 2 and especially the last one, and it revived what was otherwise a dead franchise. Between Enterprise and Nemesis, the first Bush administration saw the death of both the film and TV sides of ST for the first time since 1970.

You may not like the direction they took with the reboot, but there's one unavoidable fact...the money proves you're in the minority, and that more people liked the reboot than the "classic" films and series we'd been getting 10 years ago. They'll go where the money is, since the "classic" fans did so much for their bottom line watching Enterprise and Nemesis.



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Yeah- the JJ Kirk is going to be a little different because his childhood was different. No dad, getting into trouble, instead of Starfleet dad and always getting into trouble. It will be interesting to watch.

I've been going through all the original Star Trek movies (1-6). Man, the special effects certainly come and go (ST V especially- obviously budget woes) but the characters are great. ST-TNG comes close, but the other series just fail. I mean, who's gonna believe a Bajoran and a shape-shifter could... wow, that was lame.

I thought that as well, but then some thoughts came into my head which were extremely inappropriate for the ST universe....
Anyway, DS9 turned into the 'Love Boat'. The scenes where Worf became emotionally attached were painful to watch.

To me ST-TNG was a big fail. 7 years of random encounters? Snore! Same with Voyager.

DS9 is the only Star Trek series I have bothered to watch all episodes of, and even more than once.

If there's one thing I've discovered while discussing Star Trek on the internet is that there is no consensus among fans which ST shows were the best and which ones were the worst.

Yeah, he was acting a like a bit of a prick. Instead of hoping that Kirk would 'stick it to the man' in the Kobayashi Maru sim scene part of thought it would serve him right if he failed! LOL

Interseting comment about Pegg. I am not too familiar with his works so I have not suffered from any over-exposure. Whoopi Goldberg, who played Guinan(sp) in the ST:TNG show and in a couple of movies, can be seen all over the media airwaves in our country and I have heard similar comments about her.

Pegg's mostly done British stuff. Mainstream US has been limited to ST and MI 3 and 4/Ghost Protocol.

Well, there's Paul, that was a US film AFAIK but not big budget.
His lower-profile stuff, though, is brilliant.
Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Spaced...



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My own ideas don't stay the same either, so I'm sure there's no way to have a full consensus. LOL
After watching a lot of DS9 recently, I still put it at the bottom of the list. I like the cast members, but the characters just seem weak and not very believable (even for scifi).
TNG went from #1 to #3 now, with Enterprise and Voyager in #1 and 2 respectively. They have a better action-to-drama ratio and they don't make you resent 2 out of 3 episodes as dull. I'm really surprised by Voyager as I'm going through it, now on season 6. Like TNG, the first few seasons just weren't good, but about season 4 it found it's stride and it's extremely well done. Also, more original episodes than the other series, and less of the old "Star Trek formula" shows that get recycled so much.

I wouldn't say Enterprise was a flop by any means. Not only a great show, cast, characters (Hoshi and Mayweather fell flat, no idea why) but the production quality was top notch. I wouldn't call 4 seasons a flop in the scifi world. Longer than TOS which had no competition and only 2 competing tv channels. Enterprise had a longer run than most scifi shows out there, just not the other new Treks.