Explain the US military, then.

seconded, explain any form of military, Responsibility and respect comes from life experience not just something that is learnt from early age.

Wow, I dunno about you guys, but I was rebellious, never gonna die, take no prisnors balls to the walls as a teenager. I had no concept of consequences. I played on 3 sports and teams and snuck out all night. I knew about respect but I wrestled my dad to the ground and poured cereal over my mom's head. (My home was impoloding weirdly and emotionally, my parents parents had died, divorce, drinking etc, so that was part of it.)

I respected people before my teens, and after. But during my teens? I wanted to drive cars off cliffs and parachute out of them. Teenage years can be a crazy time. Not fair to loving parents at all.

I kind of agree with Shredder. The guy says it himself, she have a new laptop, new cellphone, extra battery, etc... I think the problem comes from way back in time. I understand that today things are different, cellphones are cheap, computers are cheap, everybody have them... whatever, but it's clear that they didn't care much about buying all that stuff. Man, I started working with my dad when I was 10 because I wanted a motorcycle (he told me it was going to cost some $100-200 to keep me working for $5 a weekend ) and THAT was a very important lesson I think.

But, all that being said, I'm glad to see him not only shooting her laptop, but also making her pay for the expensive bullets!

Life in general is less private than it ever has been. The whole world, thanks to Facebook, and things like Facebook, is now one of those small Texas towns where everyone knows everyone's grandparents. And everyone is separated by a helluva lot less than seven degrees if they have any sort of internet presence. And it's a whole lot easier to be mistaken for someone you are not. In crime-fighting in the digital world, we have to be incredibly careful in our investigations to make sure we have the right guy. In this case, Dad might just have nailed Hannah for something one of her friends posted in her name.

Case in point. I often use the handle "Cat." It is, however, not exclusive to me. Others on other websites use it. On an auto enthusiast website much more poorly policed than this one, I got flamed Usenet-style by this guy who has a deeply-seated fear of people who have weird animal sexual fetishes that apparently call themselves "furries." Frankly, I think he's a closet sexual fetishist himself, but that's something I'd rather not know. It goes back to the play on words I use when I sign a post, substituting "miao" for "ciao," which is something a little silly but something I've gotten used to over the years, and which, for some reason irritated him to the point of irrationality. This dude claimed that he's extensively stalked me online (in itself scary) and that he'd seen me posting on some sort of weird website frequented by these "Furries." I haven't the vaguest clue what he was talking about-my handle was bestowed on me in the late 1990s by one Nick "Paradox" Parker, from a description of air combat tactics in the game Total Air War. The "cat pounce" SAM suppression maneuver I used to use playing TAW and Falcon 4.0. And I have cats at home. I AM that crazy cat lady everyone talks about who lives in a houseful of cats, though I only have three right now. But the denizens ate that stuff up and accused me of not changing my handle from board to board. The fact of the matter is that I frequent less than five internet forums, and all are related to very mundane, non-sexual things; I work prosecuting sexual crimes and believe me, I just want to get away from it in my off hours. But people don't like to let the truth get in the way of a good story, no matter how ridiculous it may be.

Let's assume that he righteously got his girl, though. I totally get why he did it in the way he did it. He's (1) REALLY hot about this, having told her not to air the family's dirty laundry that publicly, and (2) figured to give her some of her own medicine in a way that would stick. He probably never imagined that it would become an Internet meme overnight and they'd all be getting 15 minutes of fame over it. And I'd say it is a safe bet that he succeeded far beyond his wildest dreams. Hannah's got to have been pretty much humiliated by all the publicity, and I also bet that, in the immortal words of Willie Nelson as "Barbarosa," she'll "think a long time before doing something like that again." Barbarosa was wrong about that, though...Mr. Palmeyer tried it again almost right away, not learning his lesson, and ended up destroying his family and Karl's too. Hopefully, Hannah will get it and not escalate in the same way Mr. Palmeyer did; but kids aren't real swift and I've seen them opt for the greater of two evils so many times.

Is this good parenting? Overall, I think so. My dad would have beat me senseless if I'd pulled something like this at fifteen. What this guy did will probably have the same effect without the physical violence.

Miao, Cat

While I agree with most of what he said (and found it funny), I agree with others that its waaaay OTT, not to mention shooting up her laptop with what looked like a .45 (really? How f*cking old is he lol).

Teenagers being rebellious, and a pain in the arse....WOW....STOP PRESS!!!! I was brought up to give my parents respect (and taught to respect my elders). I had my phases of defiance of course as all teens do, and more than a few bollockings; however there was no way I would give my dad that amount of lip. Why? Because he was the ALPHA BEAR of the unit, and galactically harder than me...that's why. An element of fear was a tool he employed to great effect lol, though I did respect him and he was very kind overall. To give him cheek like that would have been 'ill advised' to say the least. There is something to be said for discipline in the household, and teaching kids that you have to work to get nice shiny things; the value of these things and how you should appreciate what you have, and that money does not grow on trees.

I still reckon he was a bit of a tool for humiliating her in this way so publicly, it wasn't really necessary at all. Hope she doesn't go mental and end up shooting him herself (what? happens all the time). Remember 'star wars boy' that everyone had a good chuckle at? (myself included). Apparently his life was made a living hell. Of the 9 million plus people who watched that vid, you can bet at least one of them is a nutter too, some strange folk out there as Cat has pointed out....which is always a concern.

Funny in a way, and I don't dispute the points he makes....but quite wrong to do it that way all told methinks. Just an opinion.

I support this guy's response 100%.

Parent first, friend second. My kids have plenty of buddies, they don't need a forty-year-old one hanging around, it's just creepy.

Yeah, that little girl will think twice about being so disrespectful. One moment of fun cost her a laptop. Who knows, maybe she might think twice about doing something else even stupider, like getting pregnant out of wedlock.

Know any families where one kid is a straight arrow and the other is the 'child from hell'?

If we'd had kids I prolly would have gotten my father's revenge. I was no angel either. I see some of the things one of my nieces put on her Facebook page and call her dad to tell him; he says they monitor their daughter and will make her remove stuff. It must be very tough to raise teenagers these days.

Another niece is 13-14 and all her friends are having sex. She broke off from some guy because she wouldn't do it, so he hooks up with her girl friend and they do it. Now the girl friend wants to do drugs together - that substitute mj stuff that doesn't show up as pot. It must be tough to *be* a teenager these days.

I did read where this father in the vid was surprised at the attention and doesn't want it to go further. Shooting the laptop was over the top, but this young lady doesn't seem to appreciate the value of things, but geez she's 15 years old. I hope they get back on to a good track, but that could take a while.

WC

I shared this on FB 2 days ago before it became a big deal, I almost posted it here myself, it's funny because you can see what's coming and to be honest others have made the same comments in other places this was posted, they're either cheering for this guy or saying he should have his kid removed from the house. Number 1 she posted on Facebook a rant that made unfounded accusations about her parents, which apparently she had done before. Her father did something for her that cost money and time which he willingly did and he found the evidence of her betrayal of trust and he was livid and rightfully so. If he had used a sledge hammer or his truck it would have probably been less alarming or over the top but he used his .45 and his wife approved of it so I'm sure she was angry too. Seems to me this girl has a pretty good life if her father can give her a laptop and 130 dollars in upgrades and she doesn't appreciate the effort and treats them with disrespect? well that's a two way street, and I applaud how he gave her friends on FB something to think about and maybe their parents will look at what their own children are doing as well.

Agree 100%.