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#3514423 - 02/08/12 11:47 AM Mosin Nagant M44 Question
vault_dweller Wasteland Wanderer Member Registered: 02/21/01 Posts: 2107 Loc: Cafe of Broken Dreams	I'm wondering about the marking on this M44. The rifle fires the standard Mosin 7.62x54mm round. The marking appears to be a crescent & star with a crossed hammer & sword next to it. Some say it's Turkish but I was under the impression that only M91's were manufactured there. I think Iran manufactured M91's too. The only Muslim countries I know of that manufactured M44's were Eqypt and Syria. The date seems too early for Egypt. Could it possibly be Syrian? Is it Turkish and my information is incorrect about which models they manufactured? Might it be a shortened M91 from Turkey? Any insight would be much appreciated. http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8118/cptnm44.jpg _________________________ It was 1990, give or take, I don't remember When the news of revolution hit the air The girls hadn't even started taking down our posters When the boys started cutting off their hair The radio stations all decided angst was finally old enough It ought to have a proper home Dead, fat, or rich, nobody’s left to #%&*$# About the goings on in self destructive zones
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#3514466 - 02/08/12 12:40 PM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
Dick Dastardly Senior Member Registered: 12/24/01 Posts: 4146 Loc: Earth	That's a Hungarian made rifle. 02 was their country code, and they used the x2letter/x4 number serials. The "crescent" is the left half of the Hungarian coat of arms. Stamp must have been off. _________________________ Suicide is man's way of telling god "You can't fire me, I quit!"
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#3514479 - 02/08/12 12:49 PM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
MaceUK33 Dirk Diggler's stuntman Hotshot Registered: 01/10/05 Posts: 8836 Loc: Darlington, UK	Looks like an airplane. _________________________ Antec 902 \| MSI GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR 3 1280MB GDDR5 \| Samsung F3 1TB \| Corsair 6GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Intel X58 \| LG DVD±RW SATA DL RW \| Corsair TX 650W ATX2.2 PSU \| Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz D0 OC'd to 3.40GHz \| Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler \| W7 HP 64 bit \| 27" iiyama monitor \| TM HOTAS Warthog #05225 \| TM Cougar MFDs \| Saitek Pro-flight combat pedals \| Track IR 5 Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.
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#3514530 - 02/08/12 01:49 PM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
vault_dweller Wasteland Wanderer Member Registered: 02/21/01 Posts: 2107 Loc: Cafe of Broken Dreams	Cool, thanks Dick Dastardly, I originally thought it was an incompletely struck Soviet mark until I looked at it closely, also noticed the letters in serial number weren't Cyrillic. Didn't know about the country codes. _________________________ It was 1990, give or take, I don't remember When the news of revolution hit the air The girls hadn't even started taking down our posters When the boys started cutting off their hair The radio stations all decided angst was finally old enough It ought to have a proper home Dead, fat, or rich, nobody’s left to #%&*$# About the goings on in self destructive zones
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#3514792 - 02/08/12 10:38 PM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: MaceUK33]
LukeFF Amasser of Mosins Hotshot Registered: 06/11/01 Posts: 8078 Loc: Riverside, California, USA	Originally Posted By: MaceUK33 Looks like an airplane. Eh, not really. Vault, nice gun there! Is it all-matching? BTW, this is what the Hungarian crest looks like when it's stamped correctly: http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/0165.jpg
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#3515161 - 02/09/12 11:05 AM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
vault_dweller Wasteland Wanderer Member Registered: 02/21/01 Posts: 2107 Loc: Cafe of Broken Dreams	Yep, Luke, all numbers match. Belongs to a friend, and there's been some debate about its origin. I knew it wasn't Turkish because I recalled they only made M91's there. None of us knew about the country codes, otherwise the debate would have been solved days ago. I figured one of the SimHQ Mosin-fiends would know, had my answer in less than an hour. I like the way this one shoots, and am inching closer to finally buying a carbine, though I think I want an M38 because I prefer the detachable bayonet. _________________________ It was 1990, give or take, I don't remember When the news of revolution hit the air The girls hadn't even started taking down our posters When the boys started cutting off their hair The radio stations all decided angst was finally old enough It ought to have a proper home Dead, fat, or rich, nobody’s left to #%&*$# About the goings on in self destructive zones
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#3515197 - 02/09/12 11:58 AM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: LukeFF]
MaceUK33 Dirk Diggler's stuntman Hotshot Registered: 01/10/05 Posts: 8836 Loc: Darlington, UK	Originally Posted By: LukeFF Originally Posted By: MaceUK33 Looks like an airplane. Eh, not really. Eh, yes really. Just because it doesn't to you doesn't mean it doesn't. The small symbol looks like an airplane. Suck it up. _________________________ Antec 902 \| MSI GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR 3 1280MB GDDR5 \| Samsung F3 1TB \| Corsair 6GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Intel X58 \| LG DVD±RW SATA DL RW \| Corsair TX 650W ATX2.2 PSU \| Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz D0 OC'd to 3.40GHz \| Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler \| W7 HP 64 bit \| 27" iiyama monitor \| TM HOTAS Warthog #05225 \| TM Cougar MFDs \| Saitek Pro-flight combat pedals \| Track IR 5 Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.
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#3516297 - 02/11/12 12:23 AM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
LukeFF Amasser of Mosins Hotshot Registered: 06/11/01 Posts: 8078 Loc: Riverside, California, USA	Originally Posted By: vault_dweller Yep, Luke, all numbers match. Belongs to a friend, and there's been some debate about its origin. I knew it wasn't Turkish because I recalled they only made M91's there. None of us knew about the country codes, otherwise the debate would have been solved days ago. I figured one of the SimHQ Mosin-fiends would know, had my answer in less than an hour. I like the way this one shoots, and am inching closer to finally buying a carbine, though I think I want an M38 because I prefer the detachable bayonet. Cool! All-matching Hungarian M44s do command a bit of a premium, because many of the ones out there right now have mismatched numbers. I'm sure you know this BTW, but the M38 cannot accept a bayonet.
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#3516405 - 02/11/12 05:45 AM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
Dart Contributing Editor Just upgraded from intern Veteran Registered: 09/02/01 Posts: 16536 Loc: Alabaster, AL USA	[Cold War] It's Krasnovian. [/Cold War] _________________________ The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.com From Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#3516835 - 02/11/12 10:06 PM Re: Mosin Nagant M44 Question [Re: vault_dweller]
LukeFF Amasser of Mosins Hotshot Registered: 06/11/01 Posts: 8078 Loc: Riverside, California, USA
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