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AWESOME!. It is good to see there are still parents out in the world. Nicely done sir.
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I don't know why I watched that, probably because it is right beside the youtube video. I didn't understand a word she said...but she got large...hm...pixels.
Registered: 06/23/05
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Loc: Philippines / North East UK
For it to have reached this point, he (and his wife/stepwife/whatever) has failed as a parent. However, I am very happy to see he's reached critical mass and did something about it.
I just deleted my 15 year old sons facebook account. No need to destroy a good computer. He lost all his internet privileges on top of it till school is out.
Oh yeah, and he said far worse things about us on Facebook. Makes you wonder what these kids learn in school anymore. Comes home dumber then he was before he went.
He is all pissy about me turning off any texting on his cell phone to, complaining I have no life now. Tell him in return, he never had one to begin with, other then be the kicking post for everyone he pissed off. Kept telling him, if he kept up talking about his friends this way I had no control over what might happen to him. After reading some his posts, had no choice. Would more then likely have received a call to identify a body. God, I was pissed. The stupid crap they do now.
Just need to step back and regain control.
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Loc: A farm in Iowa
Family matters should stay in the family, not be broadcasted for the world to see. This guy is pathetic. A 15 year old is not an adult. She is obviously way off the mark when it comes to understanding her role in the family and accepting responsibility, but her dad should know better than to escalate the situation by making a youtube video. With a parent like that I'm not at all surprised that her daughter is acting the way she is. Discipline is necessary but publicly humiliating your 15 year old daughter by doing something like this is beyond the pale. And if he wants to point fingers at why she is acting the way she is, then he needs to look in the mirror, because by the time a kid is 15 it is too late to teach them responsibility and respect - that's something that is learned from an early age and her behavior is a reflection of his failure to instill these virtues in her. Some people no doubt admire this guy - I loathe him.
Wow, I dunno about you guys, but I was rebellious, never gonna die, take no prisnors balls to the walls as a teenager. I had no concept of consequences. I played on 3 sports and teams and snuck out all night. I knew about respect but I wrestled my dad to the ground and poured cereal over my mom's head. (My home was impoloding weirdly and emotionally, my parents parents had died, divorce, drinking etc, so that was part of it.)
I respected people before my teens, and after. But during my teens? I wanted to drive cars off cliffs and parachute out of them. Teenage years can be a crazy time. Not fair to loving parents at all.
I kind of agree with Shredder. The guy says it himself, she have a new laptop, new cellphone, extra battery, etc... I think the problem comes from way back in time. I understand that today things are different, cellphones are cheap, computers are cheap, everybody have them... whatever, but it's clear that they didn't care much about buying all that stuff. Man, I started working with my dad when I was 10 because I wanted a motorcycle (he told me it was going to cost some $100-200 to keep me working for $5 a weekend ) and THAT was a very important lesson I think.
But, all that being said, I'm glad to see him not only shooting her laptop, but also making her pay for the expensive bullets!
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Life in general is less private than it ever has been. The whole world, thanks to Facebook, and things like Facebook, is now one of those small Texas towns where everyone knows everyone's grandparents. And everyone is separated by a helluva lot less than seven degrees if they have any sort of internet presence. And it's a whole lot easier to be mistaken for someone you are not. In crime-fighting in the digital world, we have to be incredibly careful in our investigations to make sure we have the right guy. In this case, Dad might just have nailed Hannah for something one of her friends posted in her name.
Case in point. I often use the handle "Cat." It is, however, not exclusive to me. Others on other websites use it. On an auto enthusiast website much more poorly policed than this one, I got flamed Usenet-style by this guy who has a deeply-seated fear of people who have weird animal sexual fetishes that apparently call themselves "furries." Frankly, I think he's a closet sexual fetishist himself, but that's something I'd rather not know. It goes back to the play on words I use when I sign a post, substituting "miao" for "ciao," which is something a little silly but something I've gotten used to over the years, and which, for some reason irritated him to the point of irrationality. This dude claimed that he's extensively stalked me online (in itself scary) and that he'd seen me posting on some sort of weird website frequented by these "Furries." I haven't the vaguest clue what he was talking about-my handle was bestowed on me in the late 1990s by one Nick "Paradox" Parker, from a description of air combat tactics in the game Total Air War. The "cat pounce" SAM suppression maneuver I used to use playing TAW and Falcon 4.0. And I have cats at home. I AM that crazy cat lady everyone talks about who lives in a houseful of cats, though I only have three right now. But the denizens ate that stuff up and accused me of not changing my handle from board to board. The fact of the matter is that I frequent less than five internet forums, and all are related to very mundane, non-sexual things; I work prosecuting sexual crimes and believe me, I just want to get away from it in my off hours. But people don't like to let the truth get in the way of a good story, no matter how ridiculous it may be.
Let's assume that he righteously got his girl, though. I totally get why he did it in the way he did it. He's (1) REALLY hot about this, having told her not to air the family's dirty laundry that publicly, and (2) figured to give her some of her own medicine in a way that would stick. He probably never imagined that it would become an Internet meme overnight and they'd all be getting 15 minutes of fame over it. And I'd say it is a safe bet that he succeeded far beyond his wildest dreams. Hannah's got to have been pretty much humiliated by all the publicity, and I also bet that, in the immortal words of Willie Nelson as "Barbarosa," she'll "think a long time before doing something like that again." Barbarosa was wrong about that, though...Mr. Palmeyer tried it again almost right away, not learning his lesson, and ended up destroying his family and Karl's too. Hopefully, Hannah will get it and not escalate in the same way Mr. Palmeyer did; but kids aren't real swift and I've seen them opt for the greater of two evils so many times.
Is this good parenting? Overall, I think so. My dad would have beat me senseless if I'd pulled something like this at fifteen. What this guy did will probably have the same effect without the physical violence.
Registered: 01/22/09
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Loc: Newcastle Upon Tyne, England.
While I agree with most of what he said (and found it funny), I agree with others that its waaaay OTT, not to mention shooting up her laptop with what looked like a .45 (really? How f*cking old is he lol).
Teenagers being rebellious, and a pain in the arse....WOW....STOP PRESS!!!! I was brought up to give my parents respect (and taught to respect my elders). I had my phases of defiance of course as all teens do, and more than a few bollockings; however there was no way I would give my dad that amount of lip. Why? Because he was the ALPHA BEAR of the unit, and galactically harder than me...that's why. An element of fear was a tool he employed to great effect lol, though I did respect him and he was very kind overall. To give him cheek like that would have been 'ill advised' to say the least. There is something to be said for discipline in the household, and teaching kids that you have to work to get nice shiny things; the value of these things and how you should appreciate what you have, and that money does not grow on trees.
I still reckon he was a bit of a tool for humiliating her in this way so publicly, it wasn't really necessary at all. Hope she doesn't go mental and end up shooting him herself (what? happens all the time). Remember 'star wars boy' that everyone had a good chuckle at? (myself included). Apparently his life was made a living hell. Of the 9 million plus people who watched that vid, you can bet at least one of them is a nutter too, some strange folk out there as Cat has pointed out....which is always a concern.
Funny in a way, and I don't dispute the points he makes....but quite wrong to do it that way all told methinks. Just an opinion.
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I support this guy's response 100%.
Parent first, friend second. My kids have plenty of buddies, they don't need a forty-year-old one hanging around, it's just creepy.
Yeah, that little girl will think twice about being so disrespectful. One moment of fun cost her a laptop. Who knows, maybe she might think twice about doing something else even stupider, like getting pregnant out of wedlock.
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Know any families where one kid is a straight arrow and the other is the 'child from hell'?
If we'd had kids I prolly would have gotten my father's revenge. I was no angel either. I see some of the things one of my nieces put on her Facebook page and call her dad to tell him; he says they monitor their daughter and will make her remove stuff. It must be very tough to raise teenagers these days.
Another niece is 13-14 and all her friends are having sex. She broke off from some guy because she wouldn't do it, so he hooks up with her girl friend and they do it. Now the girl friend wants to do drugs together - that substitute mj stuff that doesn't show up as pot. It must be tough to *be* a teenager these days.
I did read where this father in the vid was surprised at the attention and doesn't want it to go further. Shooting the laptop was over the top, but this young lady doesn't seem to appreciate the value of things, but geez she's 15 years old. I hope they get back on to a good track, but that could take a while.
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I shared this on FB 2 days ago before it became a big deal, I almost posted it here myself, it's funny because you can see what's coming and to be honest others have made the same comments in other places this was posted, they're either cheering for this guy or saying he should have his kid removed from the house. Number 1 she posted on Facebook a rant that made unfounded accusations about her parents, which apparently she had done before. Her father did something for her that cost money and time which he willingly did and he found the evidence of her betrayal of trust and he was livid and rightfully so. If he had used a sledge hammer or his truck it would have probably been less alarming or over the top but he used his .45 and his wife approved of it so I'm sure she was angry too. Seems to me this girl has a pretty good life if her father can give her a laptop and 130 dollars in upgrades and she doesn't appreciate the effort and treats them with disrespect? well that's a two way street, and I applaud how he gave her friends on FB something to think about and maybe their parents will look at what their own children are doing as well.
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i don't know in the us of a, but in brazil this would be liable for minor (as in child) humiliation,and the dad problably would get a counselouor visit,not becouose of what he done,but by exposing it. also i disagree with him,he wasted money on the notebook,shoulda just get it back,what this does is basically telling the daughter i don't give a crap you need this, it's my money i can do whatever i want, teenagers dont take well to that.
I commend him for wanting to do the right thing, but IMO if he's punishing his daughter for 3 months and can't remember why, then I think he's doing it out of anger and frustration rather than teaching his child a valuable lesson. We're also assuming he doesn't beat her, as some have compared their own upbringing and said their dad would. We don't know that to be the case or not.
Personally, I think he's a control freak. She's spoiled.
The "cat pounce" SAM suppression maneuver I used to use playing TAW and Falcon 4.0.
offtopic in the offtopic forum but on this occasion I found out what the cat pounce manover is:
Originally Posted By: Cat
The Cat-Pounce SAM Suppression Maneuver
One should load her Falcon out with one AIM-120, two AIM-9M, one AGM-88 and 6 BSU-49. On approach to the FEBA bring up your A-G page and set bombing mode to CCIP. Set RIPPLE mode to "Pair" and NUMBER to 3. Set interval for 75 feet. Your aim is to dust the site in one pass, and then beat feet out of the AO. For the Cat pounce, parachute-retarded munitions are MANDATORY. You won't be able to stay out of the frag zone with lo-drag bombs or CBUs.
From the IP, approach the targeted radar vehicle at about 2000 feet altitude, in MIL power, keeping airspeed over 550 KIAS. Bring up HTS and bug him at ten miles. As soon as he lights up, toggle ECM, release the HARM and dive for the deck. Follow the HARM in.
Your A-G page should now be reflecting bomb symbology. Check RWR; the radar vehicle should not be emitting. If he IS emitting the HARM missed (if you Magnum at ten miles it's not likely you'll miss). Make your altitude 100 feet in this case, for he has almost certainly launched. If not emitting, make your altitude 200. Increase power to max afterburner.
Afterburn your way across the target at no less than 650 KIAS, pickling the bomb load just before your CCIP pipper hits the smoke column where the HARM impacted. As soon as you pickle, hit CAT-I/III switch and pull an immediate high-g turn out of the area to avoid tracer AAA and MANPADS. Shut down radar and ECM. Reduce throttle and maintain 150-200 feet; head for the FEBA at full MIL power. You should be clocking Mach 1 or better. Pity the poor ground troops below you as your sonic boom shatters their eardrums.
I rarely get hit by enemy ground-fire using this move; it keeps you in the target area for less than fifteen seconds when employed properly. In Jane's F/A-18 I use a variant of it employing Mk-83R 1000 pounders and two HARMs, the extra HARM to whack the inevitable Tin Shield EWR vehicle. It's nasty and very effective against SA-10s. Just don't blow the bomb pickle. If you missed with the HARM and pickle long, the SAM'll pop one right up your tailpipe as you pass overhead.
I do as well, but I also agree with Shredder a little bit. I'm torn.
I don't think he's pathetic mind you, I can completely understand his response, especially since his daughter posted her pathetic letter online for all to see. It makes sense then that his response would be public to lend her the ultimate lesson here.
I don't know...in the end she asked for it I think. He did what a lot of parents would do if they thought of it.