I have to admit I'll probably eventually buy anything 777 puts out, finances permitting, and I am definately going to pre-order the DH4 once the Halberstadt is released, but . . . I'd personally prefer more 1916-era 2-seaters (i.e. target practice ), improvements to the career mode (bigger late war engagements, more immersive interface), and an AI that does a better job of mimiccing, as opposed to just challenging, humans.

Preordered it all! I cannot wait!

Old models are not being re-used for the current development of the game.

Thanks for the correction Luke (the old models did look kind of sh*&^y compared to the gems currently in RoF). The DH-4 deosn't get me excited in the slightest (although it is an important type and certainly worthy of inclusion in the sim). I'll pass on the cockpit but admire it from afar (after shooting it down :P). I preordered the channel map and the seaplanes (Hansa-Brandenburg and its Austrian subsidiaries are some of my favorite plane makers from WWI) so there is plently in Jason's update for me to get excited about.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

Ah, the Monday morning quarterbacks have arrived...

Don't you guys realise that your one and only wish may not be the one and only wish of everybody else? So ridiculous to hear this constant choir of "why didn't they do exactly what I wanted them to do!?"... - Grow up for chrissake.

It would appear that the 3rd string defense has also arrived.

Belgian air force and channel map better than italian (and american) against austrian and hungarian air forces on the Piave front?

Forget my support/pre-orders and good luck.

Gatt (former Core Beta tester)

Must be frustrating for you not to see Piave front as a map yet (it is impossible for them to please everyone one), but the blog post did mention the possibility of other maps if the channel map sales well. To be honest I had never heard much about the Piave front, but I hope someday it does get implemented as I am sure I'd buy it and learn more about this front.

Interestingly we have no Eastern front yet, I don't recall seeing the ability to fight in the career as an Imperial Russian pilot and yet.

Yeah, the Italian front would rule. You would need at least 7-8 new planes per side to do the Austrian and Italian forces justice. I think the issue with the Italian front is that the map is a MUCH nastier project to tackle than the channel - huge areas, mountains, rugged terrain, oceans, new textures -for the ground almost everywhere to show Alpine/Southern European vegetation. There is also a seaplane component to the Italian front. My guess is that 777 aims to eventually have the Austrians and Italians in game but they needed to trial a bunch of the stuff needed first. Water 2.0, ships, subs and seaplane physics being important components of a future Austro-Italian pack, a nice smallish map with similar vegetation to the stock map (no new land textures) can be used to test all these important features out before they attack the REALLY hard maps of the Italian and Eastern Fronts. I urge you to stick around. It is easy to see how some people can be disappointed with the 2012 raodmap but please look to the big picture. RoF is a good game and Jason has a history of not letting us know everything.

for A-H we need:
-Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (early & late versions)
-Hansa-Brandenburg D.I (early & late versions)
-Phoenix D.I (if H-B D.I(late) is not included - they are very similar, although Phoenix model is superior, add as a variant, maybe?)
-Aviatik-Berg D.I
-Oeffag-Albatros D.III
-Phoenix C.I or UFAG C.I (ideally both but I'm not sure if they are similar enough to pass as variants of the same plane (both are actually license copies of the Hansa-Brandenburg C.II (landplane version of the H-B W.12 announced by 777)).
-Lohner E or L

for Italy we need:
-Ansaldo S.V.A.5
-S.I.A 7 & 9 (SIA7 was apparently used by the Americans as well)
-Pomilio PE
-Hanriot HD.1
-Caproni Ca.44 or 46 (additional Capronis may also be needed)
-Macchi M5

Experts on this front may have more types to add.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

Italian - Austro-Hungarian front better than the Eastern front with Russian Ilya Mourometz bombers? And both of those scenarios better than the little-known colonial German East Africa - South Africa air war, with German coconut bombers pitted against the all-white Apartheid triplanes of General Smuts?

Gatt, you can just forget my support of anybody with a four-letter SimHQ user name!

... Don't be so bloody ridiculous please...