Forums » SimHQ Community » Community Hall » Hey Magnum - cop question!


Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#3515663 - 02/10/12 07:05 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Dart]
Dart Offline
Contributing Editor
Just upgraded from intern
Veteran

Registered: 09/02/01
Posts: 16536
Loc: Alabaster, AL USA
Thanks, all!

Magnum, I think you've hit on why I asked the question - while I can't speak highly enough about our local police department's professionalism from top to bottom, there seems to be a growing amount of Nervous Nellie Big Man policemen. I think it's that violence towards cops has been way overhyped and put into the popular media.

Not to say it's not dangerous work - I wouldn't do it - but it seems like these guys aren't being taught to take in the situation for context. While every stop could be a crazed killer, that doesn't mean that every stop is a crazed killer. Retired military tags, mid-40's, documents current and correct, driving eleven miles over the speed limit on a two lane straight road in zero traffic....relax, dude, it's a gimme.

Cops have lost all sense of humor.

"Do you know how fast you were going?"
"If I get within two miles of what the radar says do I get a prize?" used to get a chuckle.

Now they don't even say boo. They take your stuff, go back to their car, and come back with a ticket. Maybe it's computers screwing things up, as if they run your tag now the officer is logged as having run it and they expect something from him. Anything else is downhill from there.

I always say no when they ask to look in my vehicle. I'm not toting a portable meth lab or anything - but the police don't put all the crap they pull out of the console and the glove box back. Yes, they can detain me and ask a lot why I won't let them look ("because I don't want you going through my stuff") and bring out a dog (which is always cool to watch), but they can't trash my truck without a warrant. And I want to see it.
_________________________
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.

More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.com

From Laser:
"The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."

Top
#3515667 - 02/10/12 07:10 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Dart]
PanzerMeyer Offline
Albatros pilot for the Kaiser
King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster

Registered: 04/04/01
Posts: 72154
Loc: Miami, FL USA
Originally Posted By: Dart
there seems to be a growing amount of Nervous Nellie Big Man policemen. I think it's that violence towards cops has been way overhyped and put into the popular media.

Without getting too PWEC, I think it's due to a general "culture of fear" that has gripped our society since a certain event happened 11 years ago...


Edited by PanzerMeyer (02/10/12 07:11 AM)
_________________________
I aim to misbehave.

Top
#3515668 - 02/10/12 07:11 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Dart]
MaceUK33 Online   grunt
Dirk Diggler's stuntman
Hotshot

Registered: 01/10/05
Posts: 8841
Loc: Darlington, UK
Whilst you are in this thread Magnum and Griff, do you watch Southland and what do you think about it? I am addicted and think it paints the LAPD in a really good light. Not LA though as it looks like everyone is a psycho killer on drugs but I guess it's to make it interesting smile
_________________________
Antec 902 | MSI GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR 3 1280MB GDDR5 | Samsung F3 1TB | Corsair 6GB DDR3 | Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Intel X58 | LG DVD±RW SATA DL RW | Corsair TX 650W ATX2.2 PSU | Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz D0 OC'd to 3.40GHz | Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler | W7 HP 64 bit | 27" iiyama monitor | TM HOTAS Warthog #05225 | TM Cougar MFDs | Saitek Pro-flight combat pedals | Track IR 5

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.

Top
#3515671 - 02/10/12 07:14 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Jedi Master]
kadiir Offline
Member

Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 770
Loc: SFBA, CA, USA
Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Anyway, my problem with speed limits is their arbitrary nature. Who exactly determined why the speed limit is higher in one spot than another
In my neck of the woods, I know that the way they do speed surveys is completely asinine. They do a 15-30 min survey of busy streets during non-busy times and take the 95th percentile of speed. They then subtract 5 mph if there's some safety issue (curves, narrow streets, etc.). This almost always results in the speed limit being raised 5 mph based on the most recent speed survey.

Since everyone around here usually does 10 over the posted limit some streets are seriously unsafe now. frown

Top
#3515682 - 02/10/12 07:25 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Dart]
Magnum Online   grunt
Land & Armor Combat Editor
XBL: Magnum SimHQ
Lifer

Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 23289
Loc: Naples, Florida
Quote:
do you watch Southland


My favorite show "Sons of Anarchy", lol
_________________________
Magnum
SimHQ

*Intel i7-2600K processor *Cooler Master Hyper N 520 CPU fan *Asus ROG Maximus IV Gene-Z mobo *8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 DDR3 RAM *Asus ENGTX570 DCII GeForce 570 video card *Western Digital 640GB 7200 w/32MB cache HDD *Corsair TX750M power supply *Corsair Carbide Series 500R black case *LG CD/DVD optical drive *Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit

Top
#3515693 - 02/10/12 07:35 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Dart]
Blade_RJ Offline
Simhq Weather man, dropping rain in your parade
Hotshot

Registered: 05/02/05
Posts: 7383
Loc: brasil
what you should really do is say in a frantic fearfull voice I HAVE A GUN permit ! and imediatly reach for your documentation,police officer really aprecieate that you don't waste their time.

Top
#3515709 - 02/10/12 08:06 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Magnum]
KraziKanuK Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 4572
Loc: Ottawa Canada
Originally Posted By: Magnum
Answered well above... but check your state laws... some require you notify, some don't...

Too be honest... now, as a 25 year vet of the police line of profession and knowing what I know, and seeing this new "breed" of police officer in action... if you don't have to by state law, then don't... (unless they may see it somewhere... ie: if it's in your glove box, and you need to go there for your car registration then tell them before hand... "Officer, just to let you know I have a CWP and a handgun in my glove box, that is also where my registration is, May I open it to retrieve the documents?" and wait for a answer... but it is best to keep it truly concealed and in a different area of your paperwork... IE: center console...

The reason I say this... is in the past I always believed that for the most part we cops were always right besides a few bad apples, and that citizens and the press who made up crap against us were just bitter... and in most cases that is true... but I've seen my fair share of questionable stops, questionable searches, and unnecessary detainments by officers, mostly new ones... now I may have not been a angel my full 25 years as a cop... but I always thought of us as the good guys... now, when I back up these younger, more about the ME officers...when someone says they have a CWP... they ask where the weapon is, get them out of the car, find the weapon, and run it... BS IMO, (unless you have a honest opinion that somethings not right here...) if someone tells you they have a CWP and shows you the permit, they shouldn't be harassed for their honesty. IMO

Not sure whats going on, but in the last 2 to 3 years I've had a fallen out with my profession... mostly because of the type of recruits we are getting... college kids that want to prove how bad ass they are to everyone... I've kicked my share of ass, but feel that I lived by a good and honest rule... respect me and I'll respect you... disrespect me and game on. wink (and most citizens show respect... I can tell when I'm being deceived or played within minutes of a contact.)

5 years till retirement and counting. wink


Like this incident Magnum.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/adam-greene_n_1265992.html?ref=crime&ncid=webmail6

Top
#3515727 - 02/10/12 08:25 AM Re: Hey Magnum - cop question! [Re: Magnum]
Wrecking Crew Offline
Smooth Operator
Member

Registered: 03/04/07
Posts: 1649
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Magnum
Quote:
do you watch Southland


My favorite show "Sons of Anarchy", lol


+1


In Colorado we are allowed to have a weapon in the car w/o a CCW. I would not volunteer that I have one if not asked.
Quote:
If I'm traveling through Colorado with a weapon, Can I Have it in my vehicle?

Colorado law allows a person to carry a firearm in a vehicle, loaded or unloaded, if its use is for lawful protection of such a person or another's person or property. [C.R.S. 18-12-105 {2}]. Colorado law allows a person to possess a handgun in a dwelling, place of business, or automobile. However, you cannot carry the weapon concealed on or about your person while transporting it into your home, business, hotel room, etc. Local jurisdictions may not enact laws that restrict a person's ability to travel with a weapon [C.R.S. 18-12-105.6].

However -
Quote:
How do I Tranport Firearms Through National Parks in Colorado?

With rare exception (such as during times when controlled hunting is allowed), weapons are to be dismantled completely while traveling in National Parks in the United States. In order to transport firearms through National Parks, they must be dismantled and carried in the trunk of the vehicle.


Colorado State Patrol



WC

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:


Forum Use Agreement | Privacy Statement | SimHQ Staff
Copyright 1997-2012, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.