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#3515105 - 02/09/12 09:57 AM Re: SAM Simulator **** [Re: wasfa]
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number 1 is the nose of a Neva missile
number 2 is set for changing code frequency transmission between missiles and SNR radar (Volhov)
number 3 is Impuls storing lamp, you can find at the KRUG sim, button "Z".
number 4 is SA-7B

are you serious? MANPDAS is in your collection??

Actually it is only an empty tube, with a certification from the Hungarian Army, that it is empty, and inoperative.
cowboy

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#3515117 - 02/09/12 10:06 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Then 99% of answers right ! dance

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

are you serious? MANPDAS is in your collection??

Actually it is only an empty tube, with a certification from the Hungarian Army, that it is empty, and inoperative.
cowboy


in some country it can be seen only on exercise firing only ! no others way !
if empty, it will be destroyed !

your are really lucky to have one!

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#3515129 - 02/09/12 10:29 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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In my old work area, i have see on day an replacement of pieces like number 3
but it was very Big, it could be used as an aquarium ... may be it was more than 30cm diameter

this piece is replaced every 12 months, ....... I think it was called magnetron, it was in an oldish Spoon Rest.


Edited by wasfa (02/09/12 10:36 AM)

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#3515139 - 02/09/12 10:36 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: wasfa]
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in some country it can be seen only on exercise firing only ! no others way !
if empty, it will be destroyed !
your are really lucky to have one!


In Hungary you can buy it for 85Eur or 110USD...
http://gyujtemeny.vatera.hu/militaria/ha...1543685942.html
... but I doubt that any other country would accept the certificate, outside of Hungary, even if the tube is empty, and the heat battery is popped off.

In Hungary it is handled as an empty shell.
Only the missile and the grip is reckoned as a weapon.
cowboy


Edited by Hpasp (02/09/12 11:06 AM)

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#3515147 - 02/09/12 10:50 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
... if a missile launched in UPR, and the target descends, than the system will guide the missile as T/T.
What could be the purpose of such sort of behaviour?


Lazy FCO behavior.


I am sorry, but don't understand...
And if the answers are takin' you too much time "I am/will check" is good enough. I cannot understand some technical stuff, so cannot find the answer by myself, even if had proper documents. Thanks anyway and I am sorry if offended you.

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#3515534 - 02/10/12 01:40 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
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... if a missile launched in UPR, and the target descends, than the system will guide the missile as T/T.
What could be the purpose of such sort of behaviour?
Lazy FCO behavior.


I am sorry, but don't understand...


These systems were exported to countries, where the level of knowledge of the FCO's were not high.

If a plane does a dive towards the ground, and the missile is guided with UPR (FCO forgot to switch it into K when H<5 lamp illuminates), than the system switches to T/T.

Why T/T instead of K?
Because the diverting plane might use jamming, and in this case T/T is the best method.
thumbsup


Edited by Hpasp (02/10/12 02:49 AM)

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#3515537 - 02/10/12 01:50 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: wasfa]
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In my old work area, i have see on day an replacement of pieces like number 3
but it was very Big, it could be used as an aquarium ... may be it was more than 30cm diameter
this piece is replaced every 12 months, ....... I think it was called magnetron, it was in an oldish Spoon Rest.


It is called "Cucumber Jar" in Hungary.

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#3515723 - 02/10/12 08:19 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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It is called "Cucumber Jar" in Hungary.


you now, it's more than 20 years old, and, if my memory is good :
I think the vacuum tube I have see, have a lot of Pins, it was largest and wide as an eating plate,
and it have some thing like an "black powder paint" inside, on the top,
but it was really bigger!

is this on your collection too??

you are really ... cowboy .... Lucky Man !

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#3515732 - 02/10/12 08:27 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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is there any real HD pics for inside view (behind panels),
what inside the blocks, behind operator's panel !
of the system you simulate, Dvina, Volhov, Newa, Vega ... ?

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#3515984 - 02/10/12 01:27 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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is any one Have a pics of S-75 Desna (SA-2C)

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