ED may or may not have exclusive rights to all content generated off of their products, but that includes the right to let 3rd parties charge for them. You just have to go through ED to get that approval, hence the ED-hosted pay site.

I'm not going to paste the whole license here, you can read it (or your lawyer can ) but I was told that any mission generated by anyone is the property of DCS. Seems to me that would extend to 'mods' as well. I don't have too much of a problem reading that into the license (I am not a lawyer).

Here is a link to the license.


So if I make a mission and then try to copyright it or even sell it and DCS revokes my license then how can anyone else make something for sale to work with this software?


WC

I'm not sure which paragraph in that entire user's guide you're referring to, Wreck, but the difference is that the mods here are being sold through ED. If they have exclusive rights then they have the right to do that, don't they?

exactly right, ED has exclusive rights to profit from a mod, which is the idea behind this thing.

but they don't own the copyright to it , the author does.

Tom, is Lockonfiles a DCS company?

See how this can get convoluted?

WC

no we are not

besides, it is my intention never to go payware or ask for fees - I rather have people donate to keep us open.

and I would never charge money for my Mods ... unless it was for more than $.99 ... let's say $15 per download ... you see ... I am getting greedy ... I'll give you a discount $10 for one skin, $18.99 for 2 skins

I was forced...


2. OWNERSHIP
2.1 The Program is licensed, not sold, for your use. This Licence confers no title or ownership in the
Program and should not be construed as a sale of any rights in the Program. This Licence shall also apply
to any patches or updates you may obtain from TFC for the Program.
2.2 All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to the Program and any and all copies
thereof (including but not limited to any titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character
names, stories, narrative, locations, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audiovisual
effects, methods of operation, any related documentation, and add-ons incorporated into the Program now
or in the future) are owned by TFC, affiliates of TFC or TFC’s licensors.
2.3 You acknowledge that you have no right to have access to the Program in source code form or in
unlocked coding or with comments.
2.4 All rights are reserved. This Program contains certain licensed materials and TFC's licensors may
protect their rights in the event of any violation of this Agreement.
3. LICENCE CONDITIONS
3.1 Except as expressly set out in this Licence or in clauses 4.1 and 4.2 below, or as permitted by any
local law, you undertake to use the Program for your own personal use, and you shall not:
(a) use the Program, or permit use of the Program, on more than one computer, computer terminal, or
workstation at the same time;
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(d) sell, rent, lease, sub-license, distribute, loan, translate, merge, adapt, vary, modify or otherwise transfer
the Program, or any copies of the Program, without the express prior written consent of TFC;DCS A-10C
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END-USER LICENCE AGREEMENT
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So, is my curiosity about this warranted?

WC

this means that I could not set up a shop and sell DCS mods - and that only ED can, so I would need to upload it at DCS to do it.

but ED can't go at LOF download then upload my A-10C skins at their website and sell them without my permission, I own the intellectual copyright to it even though I cannot sell it.

Tom, not from what I've been told - I am under the impression the *you* don't own anything - the DCS (or is it TFC as in the license?) company owns anything created with their tools or for their sim software.


I think the idea of charging for third party add-ons through the DCS site is a bad idea and will open up problems like what you were joking about. I'm simply pointing out something that is interesting to me in this regard.

WC

Is anyone charging for DCS apps through Apple?

???