#3511805 - 02/05/12 02:21 PM
Ah, to dream of the Lewis...
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As mentioned in another thread, I just finished reading a 1933 biography on Albert Ball. Most accounts of his combats were based on or transcribed from his mission reports, letters (in possession of the Ball family), and his diary, so barring out-and-out misrepresentation of these documents by the author, they speak truth. Ball pulled the Lewis down on its Foster mount and fired into the belly of not only two seaters, but used this tactic often on fighters as well --both with surprise and while in dogfights! He was not the only one to use the Lewis/Foster in this manner on Nieuports and SE5/SE5a. Someone else in another thread poo-pooed Bishop's staged photograph session (bottom), but given strong evidence of others, I'll take the photo for what it conveys. Albert Ball in SE5 (note original 'greenhouse' canopy, reviled and removed before service) Love this one; a great reload image--ah, if only... And people love to hate him, but can't deny his bravery... Why have sights if they weren't used???
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#3511827 - 02/05/12 02:49 PM
Re: Ah, to dream of the Lewis...
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Why have sights if they weren't used??? For the same reason that a whale has a pelvis. Still, I didn't know it was controversial that the Lewis was fired upward during combat. Plenty of reports mention doing so.
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#3512115 - 02/05/12 09:21 PM
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Why have sights if they weren't used??? For the same reason that a whale has a pelvis. ... Are you trying to say "form does not follow function". I suppose I could reply that ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, but that is just a theory...
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#3512186 - 02/05/12 11:24 PM
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Those are some great photo's, I have been reading some WWI aviation books myself and I also wish that we could crank the gun back on the N.11 and the S.E.Va to attack overhead targets.
I suppose if we ask nicely, 777 will give it to us. It's a request that's been around since 2009. I don't think it's going to happen.
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#3512189 - 02/05/12 11:28 PM
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Hey, they might surprise us, one day. It would be a first in any WWI sim, and 777 likes that sort of thing. He!!, we all like that sort of thing!!! It would be d@mn fine and justified bragging rights. The two sepia toned pics are from the Wingnuts website Photo Gallery Here, the others just picked up trolling around. That reloading Lewis is a new favorite of mine, should make a nice avatar...
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#3512268 - 02/06/12 01:46 AM
Re: Ah, to dream of the Lewis...
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Well, OK, now you blew it... How did you pull those up so quickly, still have it on your HD?
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#3512684 - 02/06/12 04:29 PM
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FS-WWI has had a tilt-able Lewis mount since 2002. However, there is no reloading animation...
A tilting Lewis would be great on the S.E.5a, Nieuport 17 or a B.E.2c if one ever got made.
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#3512759 - 02/06/12 05:44 PM
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Hey, they might surprise us, one day. It would be a first in any WWI sim, and 777 likes that sort of thing. He!!, we all like that sort of thing!!! It would be d@mn fine and justified bragging rights. The two sepia toned pics are from the Wingnuts website Photo Gallery Here, the others just picked up trolling around. That reloading Lewis is a new favorite of mine, should make a nice avatar... No it would not. Dawn of Aces let you fire the se5's Lewis gun from the reload position. It was quite effective and made the aircraft deadly in a fight. (They also had zeppelins and you could easily kill a zeppelin with the lewis gun in reload position by dropping on their tail in their blind stop and opening up with all your lewis ammo.) I couldnt find any pictures of it in use but you will just have to trust me that you could. http://homepage.eircom.net/~frontacs/DOAcharts/Aircraft/SE5a.html
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#3512885 - 02/06/12 08:36 PM
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OK, OK, enough! The other posts said as much, I recant, but if I edit my post you'll all look pretty dumb. Maybe I should have said " recent WWI flight sim"
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#3513002 - 02/06/12 10:55 PM
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Then maybe I should have said ones with airplanes that don't look cardboard cutouts... Nitpick much?
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#3513585 - 02/07/12 05:51 PM
Re: Ah, to dream of the Lewis...
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Albert Ball's letters/reports do mention the 'fun times' reloading his Lewis.
My turn to nitpick, the double Lewis drum has 97 rounds, the single 47 rounds. The double drum was developed sometime in 1916 but correct me if wrong, I don't have a date. So earlier aircraft like DH2 and N11 should be using single drum, I think...
Yes, by all means, bring on the pros and cons! Have it as a realism choice in the settings. Let people buy it as a realism choice, though not sure if that would work out in MP...
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