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#3509404 - 02/02/12 07:09 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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#3509853 - 02/02/12 04:30 PM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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I saw that Voyager episode just the other day. Cool ship!
I think it's a paid option in STO, as well as a D with the saucer section separation.
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#3510859 - 02/03/12 08:43 PM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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I feel the same about TNG; the special effects are now in the league of TOS. But I watch it still for the camaraderie and the stories now- Only TOS and TNG had that believable friendships between characters. The others tried real hard and occasionally succeeded, but not like the original(s).
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#3511644 - 02/04/12 09:57 PM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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We bought that blu-ray set of the first 6 movies with the original cast this week.
The TMP movie was nicely converted, other than one spot I noticed where there was a spot that looked like vaseline on the lens in the lower part of the screen. Otherwise looked and sounded great in HD. Maybe a dull storyline, but still a lot of fun seeing the additions that shaped the following shows and movies. I remember being amazed when this one came out, a huge change from the show.

We watched ST 2 tonight, which I think most consider possibly the best of all of the movies. I was surprised at how little attention this movie got! Compared to the first movie, this one looked closer to VHS than blu-ray. Noticed afterward that all movies say "remastered", but this one just says "restored". I wonder if that means the original material was damaged somewhere along the line?
The ending never fails to choke me up, even to this day. My wife didn't remember the movie or #3, so the cliffhanger is in full effect. "He's DEAD? How is that?!" LOL
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#3511808 - 02/05/12 06:28 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: IamFritz]
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Originally Posted By: IamFritz
I feel the same about TNG; the special effects are now in the league of TOS.


I discovered something about myself when I first watched Babylon 5 and when I re-watched ST: TOS recently. If the stories, characters and dialogue are good enough, I end up ignoring the cheap looking special effects and sets anyway. This is especially true with Babylon 5. I admit that when I first started watching it, it was really difficult to ignore the crude CGI and cheap looking sets but after the brilliant story-arcs started kicking in and after I started to warm up to the characters it was no longer an issue.
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#3512560 - 02/06/12 06:29 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
We bought that blu-ray set of the first 6 movies with the original cast this week.
The TMP movie was nicely converted, other than one spot I noticed where there was a spot that looked like vaseline on the lens in the lower part of the screen. Otherwise looked and sounded great in HD. Maybe a dull storyline, but still a lot of fun seeing the additions that shaped the following shows and movies. I remember being amazed when this one came out

Actually, that was deliberate. There are several shots where they used what I believe is called a split diopter lens. It was done so that objects at two different distances from the camera could be in focus at the same time. Otherwise, one would be in focus and the other blurry. The problem is the line between the 2 parts of the lens is blurry. With Bluray it really stands out.

Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
We watched ST 2 tonight, which I think most consider possibly the best of all of the movies. I was surprised at how little attention this movie got! Compared to the first movie, this one looked closer to VHS than blu-ray. Noticed afterward that all movies say "remastered", but this one just says "restored". I wonder if that means the original material was damaged somewhere along the line?
The ending never fails to choke me up, even to this day. My wife didn't remember the movie or #3, so the cliffhanger is in full effect. "He's DEAD? How is that?!" LOL



Actually, ST2 got the MOST work. All the others were simply remastered (which means take the original negative and scan it at high res for the BD transfer). The restoration involved taking the negative, scanning it, and then working on it frame by frame to fix flaws. If you had the ST2 DVD it looks far worse than the BD.


My only disappointment was that after the "special edition" DVD releases years earlier, the BD set is "theatrical" only. The 2000 director's cut of ST:TMP was great with new effects shots and re-edited so that some things moved a bit smoother and less...snooze-worthy. smile Also, ST2 and ST6 had extra scenes on the DVD version that I missed (especially the Col West scenes in ST6).



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#3512575 - 02/06/12 06:42 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
Maybe a dull storyline,
I definitely seem to be in the minority with ST: TMP because I've always found the plot to be engaging and enjoyable. It's definitely slower paced compared to most of the other ST movies but to me, that's not a flaw.
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#3512589 - 02/06/12 06:54 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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TBH, I watched ToS when i was REALLY young, re-runs and my moms family were "trekkies".

Then Watched TNG, Q Episodes were funny, but 70% of the episodes were random and not part of any "Story Arc".

DS9, I tried and tried to want to watch this one, but it was boring to me, I stopped watching up till the last season when I rejoined.

ENTERPRISE, watched 1 episode, the borg one, and that was it.


TBH Voyager, was the only series I watched from Start to finish, The story line was there, the Arc, the bad guys constantly changed, special effects were 1st generation CGI and not Scale models filmed upside down w/ effects added via lighting and post FX and once 7 of 9 joined, .. umm yeah...
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#3512597 - 02/06/12 07:01 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: SkateZilla]
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
but 70% of the episodes were random and not part of any "Story Arc".

ST: TOS was entirely made up of stand-alone episodes except for the 2 parter "The Menagerie" so TNG was actually a step up in that category!
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#3512659 - 02/06/12 08:07 AM Re: Star Trek [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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TOS didn't had a Q...

But they did have Harcourt Fenton "Harry" Mudd.
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