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#3509161 - 02/01/12 08:57 PM SABOW: How to view other units?
squishall Offline
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How do I look at other units in the tactical view? I can switch between tanks in my platoon but cannot find a way to look at my other friendly forces like it shows in the Graviteam trailers and movies. I have tried all the external views but they all stay on my platoon.
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#3509186 - 02/01/12 10:02 PM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: squishall]
kurdes Offline
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Sadly this is a feature that is not in the game! See my freecam thread...
Surely its doable via mod or the Debug-mode, like in Steel Fury.
But nobody wants to help us...

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#3509321 - 02/02/12 07:58 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: squishall]
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Guys you could try contacting andrey12345 through a PM and see if it's possible or planned, if you get an answer then by all means relay the message to the rest of the community. Try to keep in mind right now andrey12345 is probably busier making patches for SABoW and APOS and also trying to answer questions about SABoW and APOS on at least 3 different forums besides SimHQ (maybe more), so I don't think it's because no one wants to help, it probably just has a lower priority right now. As for what you saw in the SABoW videos from Graviteam, remember those were probably done using the developer tools (standard pratice nowadays when developers make promotional videos) and should in no way be considered as being an included game feature unless the developer states it's in the release. Afaik this feature was not advertised as being a game feature, but that does not mean it isn't possible Also remember the free camera mod for SFK42 did not come out at the same time as SFK42's release, it was released by a mod maker several months (maybe a year) later.
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#3509353 - 02/02/12 08:54 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: godzilla1985]
kurdes Offline
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Andrey12345 already answered in my other thread that this is no option!
All we can do is hope that someone finds a way to mod this!
Ive searched in the gamefiles and found some entries about a "debcam" in the "Common.Res" file.
They are listed in the keylist under the Folder "debug" , but this Folder doesnt appear in game...

The mod in Steel Fury simply adds a key for a entry called "debugcam".
Ive tried to simply add this entry but no luck!

The other option is to find a way to activate the debugmode...

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#3509358 - 02/02/12 08:58 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: squishall]
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Andrey stated many times that SABOW will not have a freecam. This feature is intended exclusively for APOS. Think of it as distinctive difference between these two games.

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#3509362 - 02/02/12 09:05 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: Krabb]
kurdes Offline
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That only says it will not officially implemented! But why should we not make a freecam-mod?
The function is there, we must only find a way to activate it...
Nobody has to use this mod, only the people who want it...

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#3509398 - 02/02/12 10:04 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: squishall]
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Yeah, but I think without those files from "debug" folder nothing can be done. This is something like a marketing strategy: SABOW has controllable units, but APOS has freecam. Andrey said that one of the possible next projects will be tactics in relatively modern setting (like SABOW). Graviteam probably don't want to mess with future sales, and I agree with them. SABOW with freecam is way too similar to tactics.

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#3509399 - 02/02/12 10:05 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: kurdes]
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Originally Posted By: kurdes
Andrey12345 already answered in my other thread that this is no option!
All we can do is hope that someone finds a way to mod this!
Ive searched in the gamefiles and found some entries about a "debcam" in the "Common.Res" file.
They are listed in the keylist under the Folder "debug" , but this Folder doesnt appear in game...

The mod in Steel Fury simply adds a key for a entry called "debugcam".
Ive tried to simply add this entry but no luck!

The other option is to find a way to activate the debugmode...



My apologies as I didn't read your earlier post on this subject. But I was pretty confident that I did not see the free cam listed as a game feature, but it also wasn't for SFK42 either when first released. Unfortunately it does not look like SABoW and SFK42 share much in common as to how they were made so what worked in SFK42 to get free cam working may not apply to SABoW. But eventually someone did figured it out for SFK42 and I'm sure they probably will for SABoW also. The problem is SABoW is only a little over a month old and most people are still learning how to play and only a very few have ventured into making mods so far. But if your looking into it you might be the one who finds the answer smile , if not someone will probably figure it out, probably just a matter of time.
cheers
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#3509492 - 02/02/12 11:48 AM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: kurdes]
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Originally Posted By: kurdes
That only says it will not officially implemented! But why should we not make a freecam-mod?
The function is there, we must only find a way to activate it...
Nobody has to use this mod, only the people who want it...


Worse, it is forcibly disabled.
Well, it's actually cheat, but still in the game adds to the confusion, because in the free camera mode, players position and controls is not clear at all.

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#3509621 - 02/02/12 02:32 PM Re: SABOW: How to view other units? [Re: andrey12345]
kurdes Offline
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Originally Posted By: andrey12345
Originally Posted By: kurdes
That only says it will not officially implemented! But why should we not make a freecam-mod?
The function is there, we must only find a way to activate it...
Nobody has to use this mod, only the people who want it...


Worse, it is forcibly disabled.
Well, it's actually cheat, but still in the game adds to the confusion, because in the free camera mode, players position and controls is not clear at all.


Ok...good to know!

Thank you for the information Andrey12345 !

Greetings,
Kurdes

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