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#3507806 - 01/31/12 03:46 AM S1 2012 new build feedback
TroyMcClure Offline
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Hi guys, I thought maybe we could use this thread to give our first impressions of the changes introduced with the new build for S1 2012.

Some of the major changes:
- Improvements to the NTM on all cars
- NTM now also on Star Mazda, Radical SR8, Riley DP and Williams F1
- New sounds, more talkative spotter
- Brake modeling, including glow visual effect
- New drafting
- etc.

NTM
I ran the Radical last season so I was especially eager to try it with the NTM. My first mistake was to load a setup I was using last season for a practice session at Watkins Glen which is the first race of this season. My second mistake was trying to exit the pits as usual with this set, I immediately spun out. Generally, the old setup is absolutely junk and virtually undrivable.
Then I tried the "medium" iRacing setup and I had a very drivable car. It will take a lot of getting used to, but it does feel very nice indeed. It's got a lot more of a snap back (which I heard is big on the real car) and the rear end is much more difficult to keep in check. Feels like this is going to be a lot of fun.

Riley DP: I tried it out at Daytona of course. Old setup from PJ wouldn't even pass the technical check, so I loaded the baseline. Difficult to compare with the previous set I was using of course since they were so different on the OTM, but it feels like the NTM has got a lot more grip at low speeds. I've only done a couple of laps so far so I don't have much more to say about it.

Ford GT: They've made improvements to the NTM on this one, I was also eager to try it since I've always been struggling quite a bit with this car. Once again, they've messed with the FFB somehow and I could hardly feel anything in the wheel. It's easily fixed of course. I did a couple of laps at Watkins Glen, also the first race of the season for the prototype/GT series. There are subtle differences that I can't quite describe after only such a short time testing, but I like it better now.

Spotter
The "You've got wheel damage" will get old very, very soon, especially doing testing on those cars that now have the NTM, resulting into quite a few off tracks. I will have to have a look in the options to make him/her less talkative again.

New sounds
There are new sounds when changing gear, new "crack" sound when you try to force a gear from N to 1 or 1 to N, new wind effects, new tire/squeal sound (that I noticed on the Ford GT but not on the DP or Radical).

Brake model
Haven't had time to have a look at this yet, might make a few screenshots later on today.
EDIT: Just found this video here:


Daytona is still the old daytona for now, though they have changed the lighting and sky which I like better. Wonder when they are going to roll out the new one, they did say by end of January, which doesn't leave them much time now wink


Edited by TroyMcClure (01/31/12 03:52 AM)

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#3507846 - 01/31/12 05:36 AM Re: S1 2012 new build feedback [Re: TroyMcClure]
Brett Offline
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I tried the DP last night and the Radical this morning.

I found them both very good. The radical worked very well on the baseline set (just dropped the ride height in the back to make it understeer a little more to my liking)

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#3507929 - 01/31/12 07:12 AM Re: S1 2012 new build feedback [Re: TroyMcClure]
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I have tested some old setups, and it's not that much I need to change to get decent laptimes for both DP and Rad.
Mostly break bias I had to change, and then some rear arb or toe in/out.
However, I have not checked the weare on the tires with this. It might chew it up quicker.


Edited by F19_CoNa (01/31/12 07:13 AM)
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#3508129 - 01/31/12 11:15 AM Re: S1 2012 new build feedback [Re: TroyMcClure]
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I noticed in options you could activate your spotter calling out lap times... cool for practice, but might getting annoying during races, lol...

Be nice to have a wheel button that would activate it calling out the last lap for you. wink

and I noticed alot of brake smoke now...which my GT has alot of, lol.
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#3508140 - 01/31/12 11:37 AM Re: S1 2012 new build feedback [Re: TroyMcClure]
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I did quite a few more practice laps this evening with the Radical and managed a 1:05.6 at Watkins Glen in the short configuration without the chicane. It's actually quicker than my best time of last season, but that's not due to the NTM, that's just because I got better in the meantime.
It feels really nice, you can take a bit of curb without immediately spinning. The steering feels much more responsive and sensitive.
A good improvement in my opinion.

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