Gave me goosebumps seeing this photo... just so sad, but so true for our service men and women...
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It is my sincere hope that whomever was responsible for that was soon found in the crosshairs of a sniper...or a Predator drone.
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How did this even wind up on the net? Did the enemy take that and post it as a trophy? I looked last night and thought it was horrible to see before bed but then I realized (cliche warning) that it's because people are willing to do that that I can safely be at home where the worst that happens is me thinking its awful to see.
It is my sincere hope that whomever was responsible for that was soon found in the crosshairs of a sniper...or a Predator drone.
I think the business end of a bayonette would give them time to mull over their mistakes!
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I saw this as soon as it was posted and words failed me at the time.
Without getting to political, I blame the press. They need to kick the press out of war zones and let the soldiers go in and do what they need to do without worrying that someone will snap a picture and misrepresent what is actually happening. Get in, do what is needed and get out. That would save more lives than anything else.
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Without getting to political, I blame the press. They need to kick the press out of war zones and let the soldiers go in and do what they need to do without worrying that someone will snap a picture and misrepresent what is actually happening. Get in, do what is needed and get out. That would save more lives than anything else.
Umm..first - a Marine photographer snapped those photos.
Second - the free society those men put their lives on the line for is the very reason (and tribute TO them) why wars should be documented, for better or worse.
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A Marine photographer isn't there to sensationalize the war. He isn't there to make money off of it. Many of the members of the press are there hoping for that one big story and will twist things to benefit themselves. That's all I am saying.
I have a better caption. Fock those arab shat holes, bring our troops home.
I wonder what makes someone loose empathy - pulling the trigger on a man trying to help another man ... on the defenseless, the innocent, non combatants including women, children. I wonder if those who sent them to kill and die believe in John 15:13, or rather in the predicted synergy of causal chains, backed by centuries of industry sponsored human behavioural sciences. I wonder if all those small and large Haditha massacres and torture and humiliation orgies were met with similar enthusiast comments by audiences dwelling in "arab shat holes".
To me the picture shows two out of too many unfortunate victims sacrificed on the altar of the self sustaining Corporate Death-and-Destruction-for-Profit snuff show.
Jeremiah 5:26 Among my people are the wicked who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people. Jeremiah 5:27 Like cages full of birds, their houses are full of deceit; they have become rich and powerful Jeremiah 5:28 and have grown fat and sleek. Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek justice. They do not promote the case of the fatherless; they do not defend the just cause of the poor.
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I looked last night and thought it was horrible to see before bed but then I realized (cliche warning) that it's because people are willing to do that that I can safely be at home where the worst that happens is me thinking its awful to see.
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It is my sincere hope that whomever was responsible for that was soon found in the crosshairs of a sniper...or a Predator drone.
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I think the business end of a bayonette would give them time to mull over their mistakes!
To quote a hitpiece from Goff on male revenge fantasies and auxiliary religion done for Veterans day:
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If you want to trigger a celebration of conquest-masculinity, the best trigger is revenge. If you want to see guns as instruments of redemptive violence, and if you want to see audiovisual media celebrating revenge with plenty of guns, check out all the films that can be categorized quite simply as “male revenge fantasies.”
Commando, Gladiator, Man on Fire, Ben Hur, Straw Dogs, Death Wish, Rolling Thunder, Collateral Damage, Braveheart, you name it. The male revenge fantasy is always a hit. Revenge is the license to return evil for evil and call it good. The story line is, Man is affronted by other Man, who has done something terrible to a loved one. Protagonist Man then wreaks deliciously cruel punishment on the Offender Man, and that violence leads to happiness. Redemptive violence, this is called.
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On the one hand, we will hear that the soldiers are to be honored because they sacrificed for these ideals, that they ensure our “freedom.” This presumes that the wars they participate in – in whatever roles – were actually conducted to protect freedom; yet few people can explain how the freedom of people in the United States was under threat in most of these wars.
When this objection is voiced, the premises are shifted. We are honoring their willingness to sacrifice, even though leaders may occasionally send them on unholy missions. Without them and their willingness to follow orders to kill and die, we would be under threat from various and changing dark forces from the outside. So the sacrifice is not for freedom now, it is for our “security.” Their virtue is in being there, willing to follow orders. Like good Germans. And so the obedient soldier is valorized, not the citizen-soldier fighting to protect “home and family and freedom.”
This obedient man-soldier is not cherished then for his good motives; the reasons for killing and dying are immaterial. And so this idealized man is now valued simply for his necessity. He is to be honored because he makes himself available to fight, whether he knows why he is fighting or not, and whether he agrees with the reasons or not. And the overarching reason — the deity to which we can make some final reference to justify this soldier — is the nation-state.
Without belief in the civil religion – American nationalism – this soldier is merely a hired killer.
And our ideas about masculinity make us men particularly susceptible to this idolatry. The soldier is the epitome of male — the guy who will visit death and destruction on the enemy, the guy who will take the risks, the guy who will put his hands in the gore (so we don’t have to). The solider will die “for his country,” but just as importantly, he will kill for his country. He will conquer the enemy, those dark, vaguely threatening outsiders whose names we need never know.
Veterans Day is a dishonest holiday, because in public we talk about sacrifice and dying for one’s country, but we go behind closed doors with the boys to celebrate the juicier stuff: the war stories with the body counts, the counting of kills, the trophies, the names we used to dehumanize them – Japs, krauts, gooks, slopes, hajjis. And this more visceral remembrance, this remembrance of eroticized violence, this celebration of conquest-masculinity, are the wet, dark, moving entrails of nationalism.
The less sophisticated among us will express it more directly on a bumper sticker: “God, Guns, and Guts Made America Free.” God is a subset of nation, a weaponized Jesus that has the same auxiliary religious status as guns and guts. But let’s be honest. The attraction of this message is not its content, but its domination machismo. That is the grail for the individual male psyche that can be so readily mapped onto the nationalist project.
It will be traumatic when the ideology finally collapses. For some, it already is.
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well since you went there....no true christian would serve the armed forces, as jesus did promote dialogue instead of violence, and murder is a sin,no matter how much you spin it's validation.But then again the problem lies withing the institution not the religion itself.
Just a reminder! Most of you/us have freedom of religion/speech/expression because of the sacrifice they/we make every day. Remember and honor those who serve(d) and die(d) for these virtues!
well since you went there....no true christian would serve the armed forces, as jesus did promote dialogue instead of violence, and murder is a sin,no matter how much you spin it's validation.But then again the problem lies withing the institution not the religion itself.
I didn't start citing biblical references, just extended on it . I agree with your observation, there is no substitute for the truth, is there? We are all work in progress, evolving for the better or worse - and the holy scriptures set a very high standard to live up to. We also have a tendency of entertaining the thought of being in control, thus things we do not fully trust or grab become institutionalized - more so if the things being put into a manmade and predefinded box would interfere with the social order and modus operandi of those, who seek to dominate and exert control over others for their own gain. This can only be done effectively by suppressing and compartmentalizing the truth while maintaining information superiority.
Among the pop (anti) religion that is Secular Humanism, the not so paradox reality is that religious and occult beliefs can be found in very high places in Government, Bank or Industry. These people do believe in, and perhaps worship, a higher entity. Some say this entity is the one that tested Jesus. Both groups have in common that Christs teachings don't get into the comfort zone of their conscience.
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. I agree with your observation, there is no substitute for the truth, is there? We are all work in progress, evolving for the better or worse - and the holy scriptures set a very high standard to live up to. We also have a tendency of entertaining the thought of being in control, thus things we do not fully trust or grab become institutionalized - more so if the things being put into a manmade and predefinded box would interfere with the social order and modus operandi of those, who seek to dominate and exert control over others for their own gain. This can only be done effectively by suppressing and compartmentalizing the truth while maintaining information superiority. 
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