Hello,

I just bought this game (Black Shark 1) off of Steam. I can not get my collective to work for my X-52Pro through the game options menu, soI am looking for a STT profile. Or if you have a nice in game options profile I wouldn't mind trying that either.

So far I am having fun dropping my external stores and steering around though. That is about all I know how to do at the moment. I try the training missions/tutorials - do they work? I remember in Lock On when a patch was released the tutorials would break or have errors. Is this the case with BS1?

Are you're looking at the "Axis" portion of the controls options window instead of the "All Commands"? Check the dropdown list at the top of the window.

The training missions do not work with Black Shark 1 patched to 1.0.2.

You should totally check out this thread:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/129/1/DCS_Black_Shark.html

[edit: oops: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2626185/Tutorial_How_to_take_off_and_b.html#Post2626185 ]

I will look in the options again tonight. Your link doesn't work but I will assume it is the Tutorial thread. I'll check it out then.

I did not check but as I have the Steam version I will assume I have the latest patch so the training missions will not work.

Oops, sorry Flogger. Yes, I meant the tutorial thread but had copied and pasted the wrong link. I've corrected it as an edit above.

Good luck!

Is there anyway to minimize this game (Steam version)? I can minimize FC2 fine, but when I minimize BS to check the tutorial thread the game will not maximize no matter what (task manager, clicking on the window). Am I the only one with this issue?

Strangely I can not seem to disengage the auto pilot with left-ALT-t. Either that or my collective control is still not set up properly as climbing/dropping takes forever (or maybe I completely misunderstand how it works!)At least I understand how to set the flares quantity/side though.

So far I am enjoying the aircraft though.

Edit: The keyboard controls for collective/turning seem to act normal. With the X52 both seem to auto correct even with the auto hover should be disengaged. I'll try resetting the controls again.

Edit 2: Doesn't look like I can set anything like collective from within the options menu. I guess I have to use Saiteks software for this game?

And what is the difference between the sub menus "KA-50 Game" and KA-50 Real" in the Options/Control menu? For whatever reason my view panning control and my mouse control changed on my HOTAS and I am trying to figure out which two options these would be under, real or game?


If someone has an in game/options menu profile I would appreciate it if you could upload/send it to me.

Disregarding the previous post, I would like to do the following through the in game options menu:

1) Set my view panning to the center silver button on my joystick.

2) Set my mouse panning to the button on the throttle (with the mouse next to it).

Initially it worked like this, but I decided to install Saitek's software. Now it looks like it changed the former mouse control button on the throttle to type: .,;,./;,./

... and the previous pan view to control my mouse. I remember why I never installed the software on my Win 7 install now...

Is there anyway to over ride or change these controls?

(All below applies to Black Shark 1)


I don't have it on Steam, but what you describe happens intermittently to me, too. Although I'm not 100% sure why, it seems to happen every time I Alt-tab out to adjust my TrackIR. It's possible (pure speculation here) that making the DirectX window in TrackIR the current focus messes up BS2. I don't seem to have the same problem in A-10C, but again, this happens only intermittently to me (tonight it worked fine twice, then broke the third time, restarted, broke right away, restarted, worked fine 2 or 3 times in quick succession).


I had an experience where, for some reason, my rudder pedals were ALSO mapped to the collective control. The two axes would compete each other for control with some very unpredictable results which sounds what like you're experiencing. Check the "Axis commands" drop down in the controls options and make sure no other control is stealing that mapping.


The "All" is a bit misleading: this only refers to discrete commands (e.g., push buttons). Select the "Axis commands" drop down to map axis commands like pitch, rudder, collective, etc.


"KA-50 Game" sets the key commands for the Easy Avionics mode while "KA-50 Real" sets the commands for the Simulation mode. Each set applies to only to that difficulty mode.


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Under the View (or All) drop down, map View Up Slow, View Down Slow, etc. to the hat switch. Don't forget the diagonals (Up Left, Up Right, etc.).


Not sure what you mean by this: do you mean toggling the mouse as view control and clickable cockpit control? Then, under "General", map "Clickable mouse cockpit mode On/Off" to your throttle button.


In the Saitek Profile Editor software, right click the desired control and set it to "unprogrammed". This leaves it as the DirectX input. Remember that you may need to do it for all three modes, shifted and unshifted, depending on how you use the mode knob.