Enjoy

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29323

One of WD's most recent posts actually persuaded me for a second, I thought, "Yeah, okay, this guy is making his point well" but straight after it was back to the type of behaviour that throws up a thread called "What Spitfire Donkey D#ck decided to mess up 4.11 ?".

What an amazingly unhelpful way to promote your own cause. Straight off the bat you have immediately offended anyone with the power to actually change it and alienated anyone here who admires at least a modicum of restraint and reasonable behaviour.

+ 1

+1 as well.

I have not had much time to play the latest 4.11 patch so I've been following this thread reluctantly in case there may be some useful discussion and discovery of problems/solutions. Now it just feels like walking into a Chuckie Cheese and wondering if I can get a good steak, cold stout and a quiet table......hopeless.

(Oh, and thanks to Team Diaidolos for their contuinued dedication to Il2 and this community)
Derek

You are completely and utterly correct FlatSpinMan.

I had to go on this long conference trip to Frankfurt and I came back to San Diego and wanted to fire up a few of hobbies. Got back on my surfboard and was having an awesome swell until it went bad and took my $500 board with it.

Get back home, break out a beer and sit down to enjoy a bit of good dogfighting in IL2 (the game I learned on way back almost three years ago, now) and saw the 4.11 patch and all the raving, so set it up and I was like, ....

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhh.

Cant a dude get a break from all the 185s and Spit 25lbs and now this. It was that type of day. It is the weakness of my character FSM that I am not known for careful deliberate moderation and tend to be far too blunt and press my attack.

As true as that is, take the Boom and Zoom aircraft in 4.11 and try to use them against a skilled opponent in online play and begin to see the marked difference between 4.11 and 4.10.1. Now take the uber planes and try the same thing, the delta is now much smaller and very, very close to what you have in 4.10.1

I don't know who you think you are chum, but you don't know me, you nothing of what I fly or how I choose to engage in this game. Your opinion on those matters therefore is irrelevent to me. My problem did not extend to you till now; it was solely with WDs choice - and I itterate that word CHOICE - in how he delivered his grievance.

You got beef with this patch? Fine.

You don't think your "fave" plane is doin what it should? Fine.

You gather your evidence and present to the GUYS WHO PUT HUNDREDS OF HOURS - FOR FREE - INTO CREATING A FREE ADDON AND IMPROVING THE GAME FOR US ALL.

But don't waltz in screaming and throwing a hissy fit and insulting most people in the place - it's rude, inconsiderate and bloody selfish. And if you don't like me pulling someone up for being such an arrogant boor then that's your problem mate not mine. It's people like WD that make this world a difficult place to live.

Oh and btw... You really rate someone on what plane he flies? We're back to that Ubizoo crap are we? Jesus. And here was me thinking a man should be judged by his wit, his countenance and his actions.

No?

Just me then.

Hopefully, it is people like WD who conduct basic (and we like to think groundbreaking at times) research into major problems that are slowly making our world and human health a better place, but I digress...:)

Fenrir, I dont have a favorite plane. And I do occasionally do some sorties in the spit 25lbs myself or the La7. But at my heart, I am a full real guy who likes long tough fights. When I head into a 20 min fight with someone like 357th_ULTI or IGOR, etc... I need every single tactic I can muster in the playbook. In that arena, it becomes very clear, how badly many of the BnZ planes have been affected while the uber ones really have not suffered much in 4.11 translation. You should also consider the other side of the coin. Any new patch by TD is greeted by waves of kowtowing but I dont automatically give heed because a work is free (or paid for). Count me a skeptic until through testing is done by those online who really can put it right to the max (like the afore mentioned ULTI).

There are probably less than 700 guys world wide who now flying online in any given week, so it wont be the end of the world. Those that love 4.11 can go there and those who liked the ole 4.10.1 can stay there. If I only flew offline, I would LOVE 4.11 I think. But the fights are not even close to a human online ace, so my server will hang with 4.10.1 a bit longer.

I believe that all your questions/#%&*$#/gripes/complaints were addressed in this post...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=384102&postcount=3

You do realize that 3000M is less than 10K feet, right. On a tropical map, right?

I like the part about testing overheat at 110% in stall climb. I suppose there's historic data on that?

How many times over the years does 'historic data' really mean interpretation of combat stories?

You got the real data then recreate the real test including flying it the way the very talented test pilot had.
Otherwise you got your own biased, non-objective, flawed, opinion.

As I thought more about this last night, we are not being handed the keys to a new aircraft by Rosie the Riveter, and only late war Allies, (read the west), and a few high ranking Axis fliers had personal planes, and they were not refurbished after every mission. Reliability is a very good option to have in a game, and so is unreliability.

once again, just my opinion.