I am having an odd problem with the weapon profile not staying "loaded". What I mean is that I go to say the GBU 12 profile, set auto lasing w/th 15 seconds, CCRP then save the profile. Then I select it and make it my active profile. I then go back to the main DSMS page and the profile is gone, or reset...

Once I make the profile active am I not able to go to any other page? Or am I missing something.

Thanks!

I am guessing you are selecting your weapons via the DSMS page and pressing the OSB buttons to select the weapon. I used to do it this way too. If I selected a CBU-97, changed it from CCIP to CCRP, saved it, changed the weapon, then went back to my -97, it was back to CCIP. I'm not sure why it does this even though you've clicked "Save," the reason is probably buried in some obscure page in the manual.

Anyway, to get it to save your profiles, you need to make HUD your SOI (Coolie Hat Up Short), the DMS left/right to bring up the desired weapon on the left side of the HUD. Go to the DSMS page and you will find your weapon already selected. OSB 1 to view Stat page, OSB 3 to view profiles, then change and save anything you want. You can then cycle through your weapons as desired and then you go back to the previous weapon, it will still retain your new settings.

This is confusing to me, too. Go through all the steps to set the profiles for all the weps, only to come back to DSMS and see the settings not changed when you need them.

I'm leaning more to simply looking at the center of DSMS for the selected weapons - selecting the weapons with the MFCD and noting what the DSMS lists for Single vs Pairs and CCIP vs CCRP and then going to Profile for that weapon and changing the setting and Save, then back to Stat.


It seems like the other way of setting all weapons at the same time sometimes works but I don't know why. I'm aware of it now and have gotten quick on the buttons.

Wrecking Crew

Like I said, it's the difference between selecting weapons manually through the DSMS and OSB buttons vs selecting weapons through the HUD. IIRC, you can even have TWO profiles for one weapon, for instance, you could have your CBUs have a CCIP profile and a CCRP profile and switch between the two easily.

Now I do not check the DSMS page when selecting weapons. The left MFD is always the TAD page. I just select HUD as SOI and select my weapon (and weapon profile) through there.

You can tell when you're about to set a manual (thus temporary) profile by looking at the weapon profile name listed on the left side of the MFCD (OSB 20) when you're making profile changes. If there's an "M/" at the front, you're about to create a temporary profile that will be lost once you deselect that profile.

To edit a stored profile, ensure no weapons are selected on the DSMS page THEN press the profile button. You should see a list of stored profiles. Select the one you want by pressing OSB 19 and 20 to go up and down the list. Then press the View Profile button (OSB 3) and edit the profile like you have been. Don't forget to save it!

If you're already editing a manual profile, you can save it to a stored profile using the NEW[] button (OSB 18). After making your changes (and pressing the Return button (OSB 2) if you're editing settings like Auto Lase), type the profile name into the UFC then press this button to save it to memory. When you hit left or right DMS with the HUD as SOI, you should see your profile in the cycle.

Just two?

You can have up to 25 profiles loaded in to the DSMS. You should have a profile for each attack type, not just each weapon. For example, one profile for a Mk-82 20 degree low angle low drag delivery, another for a Mk-82 45 degree high altitude dive bomb, another for Mk-82 medium altitude toss. Then one for mavericks, and one or two for rockets depending on the delivery types you plan to employ. If you're carrying Mk-82s and CBUs, you'd probably have 3 or 4 profiles for each weapon type.

My usual profile number for a general on-call CAS or training sortie is around 8-10 profiles depending on payload. You'd have to be flying a highly pre-planned, one pass mission for only one profile per weapon to be effective.

As for the OP's problem, DO NOT select weapons using the MFCD OSBs on the main DSMS page. Use either the DMS with HUD as SOI, the select rocker on the UFC or the profile page on the DSMS and the ACTivate PROfile OSB. Each time you select weapons using the OSBs on the main DSMS page, you create a new manual profile, rather than using one of the saved profiles.

You can also tell because it will say "M/XXXX" (where XXXX is the weapon name) in the left-hand side of the HUD.

Thanks for that quick tutorial on creating a new profile!

I don't play with Mk-82s that often, though I wonder what are the possible profiles for CBUs or GBUs then? Usually I only have one CCIP and one CCRP profile for each bomb type (so carrying CBU-87s and -97s = 4 profiles) so that I can switch between the two modes (CCIP or CCRP) easily. And as my favorite mode of deliver is CCRP, that's what I use most often, reserving the CCIP profiles for when I'm padlocked on ground targets and don't have time to fiddle with the TGP.

Why would you have a different profile for a low-angle bomb run vs a high-angle bomb run? And why a different profile for a bomb toss? What are you changing in each of those situations? Unless you are talking about different pulse/ripple single/ripple pair or bomb spacing, I am a bit confused why you would have more than 2 or 3 profiles per weapon type.

Desired time of flight, SEM, min alt, fuse settings etc etc. Basically all the parameters of the profile that effect your delivery. Ripple settings are about the only thing that will be same across all profiles.

Huh? That totally wasn't the answer I was expecting.

For example, I would've thought that you'd want ripple spacing to be tighter or looser depending on the spread of your targets, but you say it is the same across all profiles? Am I missing something?

As for the settings you mentioned: desired time of flight -- shouldn't this be "however long it takes for the bomb to hit the ground"? Why would you want it any longer/shorter? I'm a bit lost about fuse settings (n, t, n/t) as well. I know what they MEAN, I just don't know why you'd want one over the other. One thing that baffles me too is the escape maneuver --- why would it even care if you make a climb, turn, or the third option?

The min-alt I understand as this prevents you from releasing too low and catching yourself in the frag... so it is a safety feature.