That was in Utah on the 21st. looked like wet snow with warmer ground temps. That is
about as bad as it can get when compressed. Chains would not be of much help if you
started sliding sideways. Pretty good hill this guy lives on to watch the demo derby.

We just had an ice storm yesterday with a healthy glaze of ice on everything. Last night
we had 3 inches of snow to top it off. The fresh snow actually helped insulate the ice and
melt it some so it was not so slippery. But that wet loose snow has cars sliding all over
the place.

Ouch!

But to be honest, having a very warm winter without any snow so far, I loved the beginning, when it was still snowing. I can`t tell why, but I love the sight of falling snow.

That's one of the best reasons why people should need to have a winter endorsement on their drivers licenses in order to drive in winter.

I almost always chain up when we get snow, usually the night before so I'm not out there doing it in the snow at 4am. My 2WD F350 has terrible traction in even the slightest amount of snow, but with chains on (REAL chains with the V-spikes on the cross links) and 500lb of sand in 5-gallon buckets on the bed it'll idle through 10" of wet snow like it was dry pavement. And not only do they give me great traction so I can maintain control, they also make me keep my speed at a safe 30mph or less to keep from vibrating the truck apart.

Yeah, speed is the key thing. I did a 250 km trip through some crappy snow a few weeks ago. Amazing how fast some people drive. I don't know what they're thinking, are they dumb, or just ignorant of the danger?

It's pretty amazing the difference tires make when it comes to winter driving. While living in the mountains of Colorado I had a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta's with studs on my VW Passat and it was, bar none, the best 2WD winter driving machine I have ever experienced. So when you see someone you think may be going too fast for the road conditions, keep in mind that that person may A). Have many years of experience driving on snow and ice and B). Have a set of tires (like my Hakka's) that make winter driving a piece of cake. My biggest beef with winter driving is not that cars are going too fast, but that there are people going too slow - whether it be because they are scared shi*tless or because they have lousy tires, or both. Then you get the logjam of cars and trucks behind them and the longer they are there, the more chances they take at passing.

You're right shredder, I try to take that into account. Unfortunately the people I see around here definitely don't have studs on their Caravans, just a blind faith in god I suppose.

You know those people who drive a mini suv, like a Ford Escape, but you can clearly see that there's no diff in the back so it's not an actual 4 wheeler. Sincerely doubt winters are on, as theiy're driving on regular rims, just blasting through at 100+km/h, no lights on, changing lanes through that snow divider of death just to get ahead.

And you have people like this, who attempt driving down hill on icy road. Do people even realize that someone might get killed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6249iHSJsKo

The guy filming should open up his own insurance place only open during the winters. Good location. Kidding aside....why in the hell did the cops not block the road off completely....prob in the pockets of some of the towing guys lol.