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#3500818 - 01/22/12 05:01 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Xander Fulton]
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Originally Posted By: Xander Fulton
Well, this is a head-scratcher, and no mistake.

What's the point of this?

As small a market as the flight sim community is, it's already pretty segregated by period.

Do they really think they are going to tempt away any pilots currently flying the Il-2 series? Or the soon-to-be 'World of Planes' series?

I don't get it. Jane's Combat Sims (RIP) and Microsoft's Combat Flight Simulator (RIP) proved capably that - even at the heyday of interest in flight simulators on the PC - there wasn't room for more than one company covering a specific period to be profitable...


I disagree Xander think of it as a Field of Dreams type thing "If you build it they will come". If you provide the people with a good Hi fidelity simulator of a WW2 aircraft people will flock too it especially after the COD Debacle that has become Maddox Games.
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#3500821 - 01/22/12 05:10 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kramer]
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I hope they do a beta program, a la A10C. I am really excited to fly this little beauty.

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#3500830 - 01/22/12 05:50 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Rider
Where did ED say that this is just an ADD ON Flyable to DCS A10C/BS2? I would imagine it would be a standalone release, with its own, missions, campaigns, enemies and allies correct for that period.

"While the P-51D started as an internal technology demonstration, it has evolved into an independent product that adds an all new dimension to the DCS universe."

"The P-51D will be the first aircraft in the Flying Legends series"

I highly doubt ED would build these aircraft without a period environment for them to fly in. That would make no sense whatsoever.

I think ED just entered the WWII combat sim arena.

Since all the planes fly on the DCS engine, why not have the ability for them all to fly together in a multiplayer environment? Why would they not? I guess that would be up to the mission designers to figure out how that will work..


But judging by the queries raised and the replies by ED and their test team, this is exactly what it is........a high fidelity Mustang integrated into the existing environment. It sounds very much like an aircraft release only.

If that definitely is the case then to me I'm sure the flight model will be outstanding but it means the combat element is pretty much pointless until more aircraft from that era, a theatre and ground targets from that era arrive......if that is the the end goal.

Mustang v Mustang is not really a multiplayer option other than to create an online ladder, Mustang v A10 or BS will get boring very quickly and won't appeal to everyone. I truly hope that there is a new campaign element that involves content from its own era. Its a confusing release to me and one that won't flourish until more DCS Legends arrive..........but even then the title suggests that a 'Legend' could come from any era and won't necessarily integrate into existing content which provides anything other than a great flight model regardless of the weapons platform.
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#3500833 - 01/22/12 06:04 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: GrayGhost]
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I just hope we stop this Žbetter than A2AŽ talk - besides being arrogant it is foolish.

Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
You haven't experienced this P-51 smile

Originally Posted By: Warmbrak
I am not very excited about this either. Although I suppose this will appeal to a lot of folks to see this in the DCS environment, there are also many us that have experienced the P-51D in many other sims.


This new add on might end up being a good product and ED should aim at marketing as a first try, lets hope it is something worth us spending our money in.
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#3500842 - 01/22/12 06:58 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Tom_Weiss]
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Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
I just hope we stop this Žbetter than A2AŽ talk - besides being arrogant it is foolish.


Having regard to videos illustrating various products, it leaves a person wondering why it has to date not been modelled correctly. Neither arrogance nor foolishness - a mere observation.
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#3500854 - 01/22/12 07:40 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kramer]
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I'm with Tom on this one. I can enjoy my Pony in Accusim with reasonable FPS rather than having what seems like each successive patch reducing my FPS. In the event that I can actually manage to play A10 with significantly more than 14FPS I'll definitely buy this. I have no idea why my FPS dropped so much - it used to be 30 skyisfalling

I miss my Hog...

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#3500856 - 01/22/12 07:40 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kramer]
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A2A will release next a new version of the Spitfire and Mustang - but they are not the only ones that make great products ...

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#3500864 - 01/22/12 08:06 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kramer]
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My dream is for DCS to do a B-17 Sim. Can you imagine??!!?!

Maybe this P-51 is the first step?


Edited by Lanzfeld113 (01/22/12 08:06 AM)

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#3500880 - 01/22/12 08:57 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kramer]
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I'll buy it because I buy everything they do but...what does DCS even stand for now?

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#3500890 - 01/22/12 09:28 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Spyder512]
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I'm excited about this purely because I've never flown any WWII-era sim-planes with flight model fidelity higher than, say, IL-2 1946. I've got Rise of Flight and I have DCS, and they are both great, but I feel like there's nothing featuring WWII fighters that even comes close to matching the quality of these titles. Now there will be!

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