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#3499891 - 01/21/12 02:06 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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The first game that came to mind for me, strangely enough, wasn't even a war game. It was Bioshock. My God, I was drawn into that world. I couldn't wait for my chance to get back to it, every day. A masterpiece, really.
Falcon 4.0 is an example of a flight sim that does this. It creates a realistic, living world and draws you into it.
And to be honest, with all of it's flaws, and there are a bunch, Cliffs Of Dover is probably the closest I've ever felt to actually sitting in a WW2 fighter. The noise, the vibration, the need to keep an eye on your engine, feels very real. The airplane feels alive. I flew IL2 since it came out, so I'm not putting that sime down when I say that those airplanes never felt like that.


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#3499955 - 01/21/12 04:19 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Falcon 3.0 Gold series and the reason I bought my first gaming pc ie sound blaster & pc joystick, Wing Commander!!!!!

#3500007 - 01/21/12 07:00 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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SH3 had a great atmosphere to it. There was something about OFF that dragged me in too.

#3500653 - 01/22/12 12:50 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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i wanted to give the SH series a go but from reading the forums at the time ..i knew it would have dragged me in too much so i left it.


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#3505739 - 01/28/12 05:18 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Immersion is generally what you make it.

IL2, for all its sterility, I remember the first time I flew in one of the Virtual Wars missions in IL2. I'd never had to navigate without the little airplane on the map and trying not to get lost, not to get bounced and also fly the mission I was supposed to fly ... well, I was terrified and confused for almost the entire flight of roughly 45 minutes ( I didn't want to get shot down and cost my side dear ).

Well, I was immersed I think. The feeling of actually finding the airfield I was meant to land at was awesome. Luckily I didn't meet any enemy or I would have been taken for breakfast as I wasn't too good without icons in those days either. I must have been just like any other rookie pilot.

I don't think any of the previous sims I flew ever sucked me in to that extent.


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#3505786 - 01/28/12 06:30 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Silent Hunter 3, European Air War, Falcon 4.0, Red Baron 2, Operation Flashpoint for me.


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#3506717 - 01/29/12 11:51 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Battle of Britain II just for the sheer complexity of the battles and AI. You really do forget those are programmed robots.

#3506877 - 01/30/12 05:29 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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I'll go Cliffs of Dover, if we are talking strictly from a "feeling of flight" sense. Maybe it's my new x52 pro and CH Throttle Quad that adds to the immersion as well, but when flying CloD I get the most real sense of flight compared to other sims I have flown. It's the flipping of switches, the great 109 engine sounds, all the levers and gauges you must constantly watch, the cockpit shaking, the heavyness of the airplane feeling.

From a total package of immersion including menu's and presentation I'll go with Janes USNF'97 and the X-Wing/Tie Fighter series. You really felt like a recruit just starting out and working your way up in those sims. X-Wing's mission briefing screen is still the best in my opinion. It felt right out of the movie, like you had Luke and Wedge sitting next to you. I still have some of the harder mission briefings memorized I tried flying them so much.....like this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsbiuEZAaok


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#3506932 - 01/30/12 09:32 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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The best game in the world is Combat Missions in my opinion. It's a brilliant game that simulates combat at company, and lower, level.


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#3507085 - 01/30/12 03:57 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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In that case, ArmA 2, especially the i44 mod. Pure pleasure, just wish more maps/missions and more people playing it online!

#3508036 - 01/31/12 05:18 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted By: ArgonV
Wings of Glory


I came here to post that, I loved the mechanic #%&*$# about the bullet holes in the airplane, talking to your fellow pilots in the pub listening to them, scrambling, shooting down zeppelins. It set the bar for immersion in my sim experiences. ever since that game I have wanted to have a First person story line, run out to an airplane, fire it up and take off in a sim environment. Sadly no one goes for immersion in that regard anymore.

I still hold out that Clod will turn out to be a multi role combat game, like wwiionline but not so boring. more like a sim version of BF3, but thats OT

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#3508041 - 01/31/12 05:24 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Hmmm Armed assault 2 is a game I've always been tempted to pick up, might have to run to my local video game store after work today

The i44 mod sounds interesting, suggests a world war 2 mod to me

Wings of Glory sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it



#3508112 - 01/31/12 06:42 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: bisher]  
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I44 is a small unit WW2 action set around Normandy. Graphics are great, and for the most part, the missions they do have are challenging and fun. Just not enough of them >.<

#3508330 - 02/01/12 12:11 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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These are the sims that I immersed myself in over the years:

Falcon 4 (original)
EAW
Enemy Engaged Comanche Vs Hokum (with Apache Vs Havoc merged)
IL-2 series up to 1946
Silent Hunter 2, 3, and 4
Black Shark 1+2

Cliffs of Dover - I'm immersing my toes every now and then until certain things get fixed.


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#3508473 - 02/01/12 05:02 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: shadylurker]  
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Originally Posted By: shadylurker
Originally Posted By: ArgonV
Wings of Glory


I came here to post that, I loved the mechanic #%&*$# about the bullet holes in the airplane, talking to your fellow pilots in the pub listening to them, scrambling, shooting down zeppelins. It set the bar for immersion in my sim experiences. ever since that game I have wanted to have a First person story line, run out to an airplane, fire it up and take off in a sim environment. Sadly no one goes for immersion in that regard anymore.

I still hold out that Clod will turn out to be a multi role combat game, like wwiionline but not so boring. more like a sim version of BF3, but thats OT


Great!!! Someone remembers and has played it. biggrin


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#3508603 - 02/01/12 11:51 AM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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smile One of the games I refer to, when I try to get accross how a flight sim can be immersive. The journal entries and letters home before a mission was a great way to get that "feeling of being there" and "being part of a larger offensive", even if you were sometimes flying alone.

#3509559 - 02/02/12 05:53 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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I am going to go off the reservation a little bit here. I can name a number of flight sims that have great immersion and dynamic elements but I am going to go another route. Sports games have quite a bit of immersion when you do a franchise mode or season. Here are some that I am bouncing back and forth playing ATM:

NFL 2k5: Xbox 360
Madden 12: Xbox 360
Madden 08: PC
NBA 2k11: Xbox 360

When you are playing a franchise mode, the decisions you make matter and when a player gets injured you feel it. You end up caring about your team and what happens to them. No 2 games play the same which makes the lasting appeal almost endless. Total immersion IMO.


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#3509596 - 02/02/12 06:56 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Ikes, there is a consoler in our midst, let's string him up boys!!!!!

I've only dabbled in sport video games, but they certainly have their appeal. I've playd some NHL'11 and really enjoyed it.



#3509647 - 02/02/12 07:58 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: Ajay]  
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Immersion wise, any sim that I fly online with my squad mates is immersive. You know most of them here as Dart, EinsteinEP, Flea,and Chief. There is nothing like having good friends to chat with on Teamspeak while having fun flying. It makes the most sterile of sims lively and full of atmosphere. We are not too much into protocol and fly to have fun. When flying against each other, there is always humorous trash talk, and the occasional "Taka taka taka" from Chief flying his deadly Spitfire.

Offline, I have to say Jane's Longbow series. I really took my character seriously, and was proud of the promotions that I got while in the campaign. But then I was 19 years old too wink


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#3509695 - 02/02/12 09:07 PM Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why. [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted By: bisher
Ikes, there is a consoler in our midst, let's string him up boys!!!!!

I've only dabbled in sport video games, but they certainly have their appeal. I've playd some NHL'11 and really enjoyed it.


LOL! Pretty much the only thing I use my console for is sports games. Most sports games have dried up for the pc. I also like NHL 12 and the Fifa series.


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