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#3500478 - 01/21/12 01:17 PM DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012
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#3500494 - 01/21/12 01:37 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3500575 - 01/21/12 03:16 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Such a beautiful plane! Glad to see some exclusive screens! Cant wait, Thanks for posting.
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#3500594 - 01/21/12 03:42 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Oh boy, am I gonna have fun taking screen shots of this one!

Cant wait!

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#3500628 - 01/21/12 04:29 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Wow cool.

I guess this was the mythical P-51D flight that got swallowed up in the Bermuda Triangle and next thing they know they are in the Black Sea fighting modern Eastern Block jets.
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#3500666 - 01/21/12 05:10 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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wow, didnt think they would go to oldies. I am happy for this. Hope the next one will be the jug or p-47

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#3500725 - 01/21/12 07:46 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3500778 - 01/21/12 10:51 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kludger]
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LoL, seriously. They will have to pair it with an adversary.

Originally Posted By: kludger
Wow cool.

I guess this was the mythical P-51D flight that got swallowed up in the Bermuda Triangle and next thing they know they are in the Black Sea fighting modern Eastern Block jets.

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#3500869 - 01/22/12 05:24 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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yeah because only things missed in DCS are Mustang and Wright Flyer rolleyes

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#3500987 - 01/22/12 09:27 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Dont worry the Wright Flyer will be out after the Hughes H-4

Still at least we finally got something to deal with those Pesky Su-25s!
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#3501148 - 01/22/12 01:29 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3501512 - 01/23/12 02:39 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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LoL

That's certanly interesting. I gess It will be good to take a Oldie for a spin and some non-historical MP odd action.

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#3501680 - 01/23/12 08:51 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Kenetic]
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Originally Posted By: Kenetic

LoL, seriously. They will have to pair it with an adversary.


+1. The FW190d9 would be a great opponent for the p-51 to face smile The simplicity of WW2 aircraft compared to the A-10 and other modern fighters shouldn't make it too difficult wink

Perhaps, this would be another outlet for DCS to make some cash? With the questionable release of Cliffs of Dover, I would invest my money into purchasing another DCS product if there was a WWII flavor to it.

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#3501721 - 01/23/12 09:46 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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there's my own flightsims rule I described once as "one era" rule -you can make decent WW1 or Korea from WW2 title, plausible Korea or Gen.3 fighters from early jets, but you can't jump from 2000 to 1940's using the same engine without major rewrite of basically everything. That's the idea put in short words.
Just my 2 cents

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#3502152 - 01/23/12 06:02 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: CA_Stary]
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Originally Posted By: CA_Stary
there's my own flightsims rule I described once as "one era" rule -you can make decent WW1 or Korea from WW2 title, plausible Korea or Gen.3 fighters from early jets, but you can't jump from 2000 to 1940's using the same engine without major rewrite of basically everything. That's the idea put in short words.
Just my 2 cents

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And yet.... they've pulled it off with the merging of A-10 and Black Shark 2.... I imagine additional aircraft will follow the same development model.

Oh, I'd like to take this opportunity lobby for a P-47, Fw-190.... and the full BoB "stable" of aircraft + Channel Map, if its not too much trouble biggrin

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#3502172 - 01/23/12 06:30 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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I second the motion for a 190, or even an A6M...
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#3502236 - 01/23/12 08:57 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: dsawan]
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Originally Posted By: dsawan
wow, didnt think they would go to oldies. I am happy for this. Hope the next one will be the jug or B-47


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#3502807 - 01/24/12 02:47 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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IMHO, the A-4 Skyhawk or A-7 Corsair II would have been a better choice. I know there was some talk about a COIN P-51 "Enforcer" a few years back I believe, but a P-51 vs. a ZSU-23? Really? LMAO I demand the P-40 or F-4U Corsair then! ;-)

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#3502812 - 01/24/12 02:54 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Backy]
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Originally Posted By: Backy
IMHO, the A-4 Skyhawk or A-7 Corsair II would have been a better choice. I know there was some talk about a COIN P-51 "Enforcer" a few years back I believe, but a P-51 vs. a ZSU-23? Really? LMAO I demand the P-40 or F-4U Corsair then! ;-)


You gotta see the big picture.

With the debarcle that was Cliffs of Dover I think others are looking at dipping their toes in the WW2 sim market.

This could be the start of something very, very good.

I'd also note that this news from DSC seems to have spurred the Cliffs of Dover crowd into action and they are promising to post pics this friday of the new game they are building.

Competition is good.

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#3502857 - 01/24/12 03:58 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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When there's a a box of B17's (and I don't mean just 6) a proper map, opponents, WWII environment to fly it in, I'll get excited.
Until then...


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#3502930 - 01/24/12 07:18 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: CA_Stary]
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yeah because only things missed in DCS are Mustang and Wright Flyer rolleyes


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#3504595 - 01/27/12 03:00 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Oh, well, P-51D ...... wacky

And then ... FW-190, and B-17, and La-5, BF-109, F4U, F6F ...
IL-2 1946 you got a big rival here.


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#3505640 - 01/28/12 06:48 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: kludger]
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Originally Posted By: kludger
Wow cool.

I guess this was the mythical P-51D flight that got swallowed up in the Bermuda Triangle and next thing they know they are in the Black Sea fighting modern Eastern Block jets.


The image reminds of something out of that Iron Eagle series (or as my friend used to call the films, 'plastic turkeys!' LOL)
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#3528341 - 02/28/12 06:46 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3528345 - 02/28/12 06:52 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3528396 - 02/28/12 08:38 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3528434 - 02/28/12 09:37 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Wow that looks totally awesome . . . hope there is something historical to shoot at!

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#3528470 - 02/28/12 11:38 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Dang. I so totally have to buy this... jawdrop
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#3528544 - 02/29/12 03:23 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3528570 - 02/29/12 04:58 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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It's just so... beautiful.

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#3528778 - 02/29/12 09:44 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Scylla]
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Originally Posted By: CA_Stary
yeah because only things missed in DCS are Mustang and Wright Flyer rolleyes


hahaha

but SRSLY I still don't get it


Cmon people - what a stupid reaction! It is said one million times but nobody does listen:
It was an internal tech demo. And cuz the results were great it is developed by "The Fighter Collection" to a full product by a different team.
It does NOT influence the progess of the upcoming fixed wing US JET fighter.

It does not compare to anything we have seen before. IL-2 flight dynamics will be revlealed as ridiculous arcadish #%&*$#.
(Didnt ever tried A2A but perhaps A2A is the ONLY thing you can compare besides the real ones)

Look forward to it. it will be awesome.

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#3529183 - 02/29/12 06:08 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Looks amazing, but I'm with the majority here in that the P-51 is a bit out of place in the current DCS environment. Are there plans to release other aircraft from the same era? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me unless a future WWII add-on is in the works.

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#3529197 - 02/29/12 06:24 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Cozy4]
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Ditto what Cozy4 said. Why is this a problem for people. I can't wait for it. Having visited Duxford and seeing their collection of real warbirds I hope that they have great success with this experiment and expand on it.

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#3529503 - 03/01/12 06:43 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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#3529508 - 03/01/12 06:52 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Nice to see they have working HVARs and bombs. FFARs and Mk82s wouldn't have been appropriate.



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#3529930 - 03/01/12 02:22 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: Cozy4]
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It does not compare to anything we have seen before. IL-2 flight dynamics will be revlealed as ridiculous arcadish #%&*$#.


In IL2 we had WWII opposition and maps, and the "flight dynamics" as you put it were fantastic for the time.

When there are B17's to escort and map to escort them over (or a Belgium map to fly CAS over) 109's, 190's to shoot at
along with Panzers on the ground - Or alternatively a Korean theater, THEN I'll get excited.

Until then I'm not sure what this will offer us over the Accusim Mustang that's already out.
I remain hopeful, but been around long enough to know better about holding one's breath.

For now, I'm firmly ensconced in the "what?" category.

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#3529967 - 03/01/12 03:06 PM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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Other than for a quick boost of capital I don't see the point of a Mustang in DCS which is in a modern setting. I don't want to move mud in a Pony and there isn't anything with swastikas to shoot down either. If I want to fly a realistic P-51 I have FSX for sterile and Il2 UP3*(needs work) for combat.

To say this has no impact on the dev of other airframes is short sighted. DCS like every software dev group, lags behind projections and the more "things" that have to be integrated into the code = more bugs to fix.

I feel like DCS is going in too many lame directions at once instead of building on what is already good, like expanding to new theaters or making the existing stale map more interesting and perhaps somewhat dynamic. DCS is like FSX, just bunch of random cool stuff that doesn't really fit together in a cohesive way.


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#3530330 - 03/02/12 04:50 AM Re: DCS: P-51D Mustang Coming in 2012 [Re: guod]
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I have not found any plane for FSX that has a realistic flight and "ground handling" model. Also the "feel" of flight is nothing like in DCS A-10 or in real life. I have tried everything from Acceleration pack to A2A addons.

IL-2 is ok for the combat stuff but the sim engine is starting to be a bit outdated. I'll be happy to take any WW2 bird that is made with the same realism as other DCS products!

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