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#3499350 - 01/20/12 11:55 AM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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BMS by a country mile.
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#3499536 - 01/20/12 02:41 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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Online VEF missions in IL2. Best flying ever.
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#3499599 - 01/20/12 03:37 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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See, that's just it. There's more to immersion than the flying. That's where the 21st century sims fail. Also, if it only happens in MP, and not in SP, then it also fails.
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#3499663 - 01/20/12 04:44 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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Exactly. I think i missed out on the golden age of immersive type sim and instead fell into the brilliant looking but souless bracket.Ahhh if only we had 100 million so we could make our own  The closest i got with il2 was carrier ops because of the vast emptiness.Taking off in an sbd to find the japanese carriers, divebombing and missing and then being worried if i would make it back home again without ending up in the middle of nowhere ,lost. Icons turned off or its no fun  After twenty minutes of flying an ever widening pattern where you think your fleet should be can get quite worrying. Chess is a good example Keith
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#3499731 - 01/20/12 05:42 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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That's where the 21st century sims fail. You know, before the DCS series came out I used to fly IL-2 for years, on- and offline. Offline I was tormented by soulless and static campaigns and cretinous AI, online by a$$hats complaining how a) oleg is a communist/fascist/cleaning lady/truckdriver with no understanding of SW development b) x/y/z is over/undermodelled c) the online war providers are skewed one way or another and thus provide über planes for the enemy and porked #%&*$# for us d) the world sucks and I can't get it up. So yah, "soulless" 21st century sims like DCS:WH any bloody time for me please 
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#3499733 - 01/20/12 05:47 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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Exactly. I think i missed out on the golden age of immersive type sim and instead fell into the brilliant looking but souless bracket.Ahhh if only we had 100 million so we could make our own [...]
Well, if you wanna see things that way ... On the other hand with BMS F4 has never been better Really not that bad times for us simmers as it may seem.
Edited by Xeno (01/20/12 05:50 PM)
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#3499743 - 01/20/12 05:57 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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Really not that bad times for us simmers as it may seem. No, true that, better than it's been in a long while actually. And my gripes with IL-2 disregarded I still hope they get their s**t together and CoD fixed ASAP. Never too many sim makers out there IMO...
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#3499786 - 01/20/12 06:52 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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TBH I haven't try 4.11 yet, but knowing it's main features maybe it's worth to dust off good ole Sturmovik New, not all-seeing anymore AI affected by the same limits as human player (g, overspeed,overheat (yay!) etc...), more advanced CEM (maybe not up to the CloD level, but still) + 6DoF, makes it almost new game. There's still some fun to be had with Il2.
Edited by Xeno (01/20/12 06:53 PM)
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#3499804 - 01/20/12 07:17 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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#3499840 - 01/20/12 08:00 PM
Re: Ot, maybe, sorta: Most immersive sim/game you have played and why.
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Wings of Glory (Anyone remember that one?) and Battlefield 3.
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe is a close 3rd.
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