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#3499138 - 01/20/12 05:34 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: WynnTTr]
Freycinet Veteran Registered: 04/15/02 Posts: 13361	Originally Posted By: WynnTTr It's George Lucas - one dimensional characters, wooden dialogue and acting but with spectacular visual scenes and backdrops. But in most of his movies there is no historical reality to hold up those "Spectacular visual scenes" to. For WWII there is, unfortunately for him... _________________________ My Il-2 CoD movie web site: www.flightsimvids.com
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#3499142 - 01/20/12 05:41 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: 777 Studios - Jason]
Freycinet Veteran Registered: 04/15/02 Posts: 13361	Originally Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason You guys are so incredibly jaded and critical. Aren't we all flight simmers who geek out on airplanes? Why would this movie not be on your must see list? This movie seems to have butt loads of combat scenes and the production quality looks to be very high with at least a modicum of historical accuracy. I bet this movie is a million times more interesting than 90% of the crap released in theatres. I'd like to see how well some of you guys can write a script and keep an audiences attention for 2 hours. Well, why do we love Rise of Flight and not so much Wings of Prey and those other simtertainment (dibs on that word, I just created it) titles? - Because Rise of Flight represents an effort towards an approximation of historical reality, whereas such other titles are just fluff. I fear it is the same with this movie... _________________________ My Il-2 CoD movie web site: www.flightsimvids.com
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#3499144 - 01/20/12 05:41 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Hellmann]
PanzerMeyer Albatros pilot for the Kaiser King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster Registered: 04/04/01 Posts: 72154 Loc: Miami, FL USA	Just wanted to put in my 2 cents here. I think us SimHQ members should always be cognizant of the fact that we represent a small minority when it comes to movies. Quite frankly, the vast majority of movie theatre audiences simply won't notice or won't care about any historical inaccuracies that may be in the film. The reality is that entertainment sells more tickets than history lessons do. However, it is a sad fact that making a movie based on the Tuskeegee Airmen which is completely based on historical fact and presents an objective viewpoint would be considered "boring" by most of the general public. So when I watch the film this Saturday of course I will view it as a history and military aviation buff but I will also be aware of the things that were done to the film to make it more mainstream. _________________________ I aim to misbehave.
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#3499166 - 01/20/12 06:14 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Dogsbd]
Master meh Hotshot Registered: 07/12/04 Posts: 6028 Loc: NW Alabama, USA	Originally Posted By: Dogsbd I have no intention of paying to see this movie. Ever. If/when it eventually shows up on TV I might give it a look if I've been drinking enough. The impression the trailers have left me with is that the entire Army Air Corps was incompetent, that bombers were being shot down faster than they could be built, the white fighter pilots charged with protecting them were incompetent glory hounds that left the bombers to go off and chase kills and then the "Red Tails" came along and saved the day, winning the war single handed. Bull$hit. If the writers of this drivel can't get across to the audience what a truly inspiring story the Tuskegee Airmen represent without resorting to tearing down other equally impressive, heroic fighter pilots then maybe they should find work more suitable to their style, like writing for the next Star Trek fantasy film. Thats pretty much how I feel. I wont be paying to see this movie at any point either. _________________________ *sigh* http://agw.bombs-away.net RoF: =AGW= Master
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#3499202 - 01/20/12 06:46 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Hellmann]
knightgames Senior Member Registered: 09/19/04 Posts: 4156 Loc: MA	I'll be seeing it. I'll also be listening for the tell tale HORRIDO yells from the audience. It's "Saturday matinee movie fare" and I'm going just for the spectacle of it - flight models and inacuracies be damned. Where else are you going to see B 17s and P 51s fight it out with Me 109s on the big screen? I'm sure I'll groan and wriggle at some of the scenes, but.....
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#3499212 - 01/20/12 06:54 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Hellmann]
BeachAV8R Contributing Editor Lifer Registered: 01/22/01 Posts: 20982 Loc: Charlotte, NC USA	Agreed. If I can suspend my disbelief for aliens and ghosts, I can manage to struggle through a bad WW2 movie just to see some effects. _________________________ Subscribe to PC Pilot magazine! -- (I write for them!)
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#3499214 - 01/20/12 06:55 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Hellmann]
BeachAV8R Contributing Editor Lifer Registered: 01/22/01 Posts: 20982 Loc: Charlotte, NC USA	* I'm just waiting for Spielberg to contact me about doing a movie about how I single handedly fought back the North Koreans in Falcon 4 and saved the Korean Peninsula from TOTAL COMMUNIST INTEGRATION. Spielberg. Hit me up. _________________________ Subscribe to PC Pilot magazine! -- (I write for them!)
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#3499230 - 01/20/12 07:03 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: BeachAV8R]
PanzerMeyer Albatros pilot for the Kaiser King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster Registered: 04/04/01 Posts: 72154 Loc: Miami, FL USA	Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R * I'm just waiting for Spielberg to contact me about doing a movie about how I single handedly fought back the North Koreans in Falcon 4 and saved the Korean Peninsula from TOTAL COMMUNIST INTEGRATION. Spielberg. Hit me up. Instead of Spielberg you should get the guy who directed the Iron Eagle movies. That way not only did you single-handedly save South Korea from Communism but you did it while standing inside your open canopy on your F16 and firing a Stinger shoulder launched missile at a North Korean MiG-29. _________________________ I aim to misbehave.
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#3499234 - 01/20/12 07:07 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: BeachAV8R]
NH2112 Hotshot Registered: 06/06/06 Posts: 7187 Loc: Windham ME	Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R Agreed. If I can suspend my disbelief for aliens and ghosts, I can manage to struggle through a bad WW2 movie just to see some effects. If the film in question is supposed to be based on a real event or person, I'd rather see a good/historically accurate movie with bad effects, than a bad/historically inaccurate movie with great effects. If it's just a generic period movie, something like Kelly's Heroes or that crappy WWII movie with Billy Zane & Michael Madsen, I don't care if uniforms, weapons, etc, are accurate. _________________________ Phil "Can I tell you something? Got to tell you one thing. If you expect the freedom That you say is yours Prove that you deserve it And help us to preserve it Or being free will just be Words and nothing more"
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#3499249 - 01/20/12 07:20 AM Re: Red Tails Reviews are flying in. [Re: Hellmann]
MaceUK33 Dirk Diggler's stuntman Hotshot Registered: 01/10/05 Posts: 8841 Loc: Darlington, UK	I'm expecting a cross between Pearl Harbour and Fly Boys... _________________________ Antec 902 \| MSI GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR 3 1280MB GDDR5 \| Samsung F3 1TB \| Corsair 6GB DDR3 \| Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Intel X58 \| LG DVD±RW SATA DL RW \| Corsair TX 650W ATX2.2 PSU \| Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz D0 OC'd to 3.40GHz \| Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler \| W7 HP 64 bit \| 27" iiyama monitor \| TM HOTAS Warthog #05225 \| TM Cougar MFDs \| Saitek Pro-flight combat pedals \| Track IR 5 Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.
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