Strike Fighters 2 Europe: Black Sea v2.0 Terrain
by Chuck "PFunk" Bellows


For SimHQ registered members with 100+ posts.

Click here for the description.

Click here for the download page (215MB).

I don't have SF2, but I wanted to check out the description. I get access denied, even though I have over 100 posts. Just thought I'd let you know in case it was a misconfiguration somewhere...

Can't access too.

Works for me.

hello

why such a limitation?

Is there another web site where we can get some information on this? And hopefully a free download link?

Manage bandwidth.

If you can't access the file, the database may be still updating, so please try again in 2-3 hours and post back in here if still a problem.

No, it is exclusive content to SimHQ. Mirroring of the file elsewhere is not permitted.

Looking GREAT... I don't do that game... but if I did, I'd be all over this... Screens look GREAT Pfunk.

Same here: more than 100 , no access

SF2E noob but really would have liked to try this.

Congrats on the release PFunk, the screenie on the SimHQ homepage looks very nice.

All the Best!
Kiwi

So I understand making it over 100 posts to manage bandwith.

I get that.

But making it exclusive to members who have 100 posts?

That seems kinda like it's being lorded over people.

I mean, why not make it so that SimHQ is is the exclusive direct DL, but then let people start a torrent as well?

Now, SimHQ regulars get an exclusive bonus but everyone gets to enjoy the content, which helps out TK by encouraging engagement with his product.

Don't worry,

I have over 6000 posts and get the message that I have no access to SimHQ downloads, will try again later.

VBH

Also over 100, no access. Will keep trying on different times of the day.
I will get it eventually (I hope) at the moment I can't even get to the description.

I fly this sim quite a bit but I'm saddened that I don't have nearly enough posts to DL this.

Time to post like a Madman.

Yeah! I was disappointed too that the exclusivity to SimHQ allows only some to have access to this. It feels even more frustrating as I'm hitting this site at least 3-4 times a day and this is the first time I feel I don't belong here. I remember reading some time ago that it was supposed to be available also to CombatAce wehere there's only a downlowad/user/day limitation, which frankly seems fair. I'm not going to repeat what other have stated in the posts above, except one thing:

Time to post like a Madman...

Heya tomagabriel,

Just checked CombatAce and didn't see anything about it over there so it seems very exclusive to SimHQ. I'm here as well at least 2-3 time a day and just enjoy reading posts and really don't contribute too much. I suppose it's time to break out of my shell and contribute more. I suppose that's the reward... This terrain looks awesome! The SUKHOI's and MIG's were made for this! I must admit I was surprised to find it exclusive to SimHQ as the SFers community here seems rather small. CombatAce is almost exclusive to SFers so it would make sense to post this DL there as this should be enjoyed by many.

Time for my posting spree.

Some more screenshots would be appreciated.

Agreed... I would like to enjoy this content and now find myself flooding this thread just to get access to this.

68 more post to go

Does not work for me

Indeed.

Edit:
Is there a campaign associated to this terrain? Or is it usable only with quick missions and editor-created content?

At the rate I post it is going to take me a while too

OK, I got it working now - posting must have updated my status or something.

The extra screens on the download page look cool.

Eagerly anticipating taking a spin round the Black Sea

Thanks for your hard work pfunk, I know how much it takes to put a terrain together.

Slainthe!

Baltika

Ok, I could download it, will test soon

Posting will update your status? Worth a try.

Done.

It does look interesting, and I agree that it is a bit odd to restrict access to members with a certain number of posts. At least as SF is single player the policy won't affect online gaming.

I just hope this does not result in a bunch of people spam-posting to get their post count up to 100 so that they can then access the file.

I would just like to reiterate my point above.

LOL.. Good one..


For that I bequeath you however many of my posts you need to get to 100...

I visit SimHQ every day, but don't post much. This doesn't make me feel anymore like posting.....

No access for me either =(

Yes, its a bummer. But I figure if I post 10/day I should be able to get it in a weeks time.

Just post like crazy.....

Can't access either ... bummer!

You know things are a tad backwards when Wrench (a top modder at CombatACE) who contributes much to the SFers community can't even access this!

I have been able to start the download after my previous post: for the +100 crowd, posting seems to unlock your status in a way.
Downloading now.

I couldn't access it neither but I'll test now whether posting today does the trick indeed.

EDIT: it did! Immediately after I posted access started to work

...and yet there's no mention at CA about this terrain.

wow how exclusive.

Just made a post over at CA.... and yes... I find it very strange indeed that there is no info about this over there.

Perhaps I'm missing something... (besides 53 posts to get this darn terrain).

Hey guys... since SimHQ is a free site, we need to bring some exclusives to our registered members as an additional incentive to register, and that is why we went this route (along with managing the bandwidth). If you haven't already, become a registered member and support SimHQ. More exclusive downloads and features are coming. And the site will remain 100% free.

For those who don't see the info/download, and you have 100+ posts but haven't posted in a while, make a new post. It may be that downloaders group was created after you last posted, and making a new post in any forum will trigger it.

Thank you for the clarification.

I look forwards to getting to that 100th post so I can enjoy this and more exclusives.

43 posts to go.

Check out the Community Hall. I would think there have to be a few threads that will peak your interest enough to post.
Community Hall: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/84/1/Community_Hall.html

I am looking forward to welcoming you there too.


Wheels

Thanks wheelsup for your kind welcome.

If I write here that its not working for me, will it?

Yes it will.
Looks like no matter how many posts you have, you have to post 1 more.

D/L works for me, description gives "acces denied" though

I think I can respect the 100 posts restriction. If nothing else it prevents people from signing up just to download files and then leave, or worst, come back from time to time to troll around. I'm a member of a site that is suffering from this. We sure don't want this to happen to SimHQ. It's just too bad that the only way to "measure your commitment" is to look at how many posts you have. A "lurker meter" would be good . After all, I spent almost two years lurking around here before joining.

BTW, can I use this mod in Wings over Europe?

I think its designed for Europe (judging by the name of the thread). Can't confirm anything though (see my post nr.)

Edit:
"(see my post nr.)" i.e. below 100 at the time of posting

ok, here is my mail.. now lets download

me too

Downloaded and did some flying: I like :-)
Thank you PFunk and Dave / SimHQ for sharing.

pffff... I have been a registered lurker here for years now. Guess that means no terrain for me

ehh, make that a registered lurker that had to re-register some time ago to congratulate the enemy engaged community on its work!

Such is the life of the lurker I suppose.

I lurked here for many years myself with the occasional call out for assistance. Now I am trying to contribute to a great community and even having a good laugh while doing so.

I think you will find that we are a welcoming lot and that you will enjoy the time you spend here with us. Nice to have you aboard Hellman.


Wheels

Thanks again Wheels... quite a few characters here! Makes for some interesting dialogue and some moments of hilarity to boot.

Ok, so this to help boost ad sales? (otherwise more members would just mean more bandwith usage and expense, from a pure business perspective). Makes sense to me:

More members=more reason for advertisers to want to buy our ad-space, as we have concrete proof that more ppl are clicking ads.

More posts per member= an even stronger sales proposition, as it speaks to A more vibrant and engaged community.

Plus, other metrics such as how many users sign in per day, average posts per user, average page view per user, etc. help "tell the story" of why our little slice of the web is a fertile place to drill into a very picky, very demanding, yet very hungry niche market.

If I might make a humble suggestion: CombatAce allows one to donate to the site, and depending on much you donate,they'll remove the download limit for a set amount of time. Perhaps take a similar approach, wherein a new member can donate to the site and "buy" their "100 posts" privileges. Perhaps also introduce donation tiers with other perks, say an increased file upload size for bigger screens, a "supporting member" badge, or even early access to exclusive content.

I'd fork over some cash for the aforementioned items


Thoughts anyone (might as well boost your posts ppl! )

One issue with the 'pay to download' strategy is that it can be interpreted as 'selling' the free addons by a third party, which some developers frown upon. (Not saying that is the case here, just in general)

Let me see if this works for me..

Edit:Nope, I would've enjoyed exploring but oh well...

So to be clear I need to have posted over 100 times just to find out more of what this is?
I would think that I would qualify but I am also getting permission denied.

Maybe posting this updated your status (as it did for others) and now you can download.

Hi Pfunk,

Great work on this terrain, I finally got a chance to take her for a spin tonight.

I really like the Ukraine vs Russia set up. The only issue is a game limitation, flying single missions gives you the usual Migs vs Phantoms combat, I would like some red on red hardware action straight out of the box. But I am sure I can whip up a campaign soon enough which will solve that problem - I just have to get my SF2 install up to speed for post-92 hardware ;-)

On the subject of planning maps, 15 minutes with Keith Bedford's sfmap tool from way back will give you these:-







Save them to your desktop or wherever, convert them to .bmp format, drop them into your Terrains/BlackSea2 folder, over-writing the old files and you are good to go.

Be aware when using sfmap that it has a few issues - it doesn't like win7, and doesn't get the SF2 file structure, so I made these maps by dropping your Black Sea 2 terrain into my WoE 08 install on my old XP machine. [NB the terrain itself does not seem to run on WoE 08, I think it is to do with ansi vs unicode for the terrain .ini files]. Also, when you export the maps from sfmap, it gets the size of the bmps wrong - you have to edit them in paint.net or whatever to the proper sizes - 512x512, 1024x1024 and 2048x2048.

There is also this new tool by gerwin which is good for planning maps:-

http://combatace.com/topic/68667-alternate-tfd-terrain-tilemap-editorviewer/

However, I am not sure that gerwin's tool supports non-stock terrain map sizes, yet.


Right, I'm off to read up on modern Russian and Ukrainian air OOBs ;-)

No wonder I can't get it to run. I've got Win7.

Hmmm...gonna have to work on this one.

Baltika, we are waiting for the campaign Your jobs are always interesting: hey I ams till playing your Battle of England

Interesting.

I don't have SF2. Seems some people are saying it does not run easily on modern OS. Is it difficult to get installed and functioning on Win 7?

For you W7 guys, install SF2 OUTSIDE of the Program Files (x86) folder. Once that is done, you should have no problems. Running it on W7 x64 Ult right now.

I've never had any issues with SF2 on Win7. It was SF1 series that didn't like Vista or 7 so much because of their built-in lockdown on altering files in the Progam Files directory. SF2 uses your profile to store stuff, unlike SF1. Mods go in %root%/users/%username%/saved games/thirdwire/%SF2 exe name%.



The Jedi Master

Hi Valcor

I'm an SF2 noob myself (on Win7 32 bit) but I'm not sure why someone would tell you that. The system requirements for SF2 include Windows Vista or Windows 7. See Third Wire's site here:

https://store.thirdwire.com/store.htm

As I understand it, SF2 is essentially a Vista/Win7/Dx10 version of SF1.

I've been very happy with my SF2 experience (I upgraded to Win7 specifically to play SF2) from the online purchase to playing and modding the game. I'm from a mainly IL-2 and Falcon4.0 background, and it's true that SF2 has some 'sim-lite' features (the 'worst' of which can be modified) but is very stong in 'fun-factor'.

There's more about my SF2 experience here if you want to check it out:

http://www.kiwisim.net.nz/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5533

All the best
Kiwi

At this rate this is going to take me a while.

Check out the Community Hall for a couple of weeks in your spare time and I would be surprised if you couldn't find enough threads in which to contribute that you wouldn't get to 101 posts. Looking forward to seeing you there.


Wheels

Could you at least tell me the name of the download so I can search for it and download it from some other website?

We're sorry. SimHQ is the only site hosting this file.

Thanks for sharing guys!

Only 70 more to go ...

I'm trying to download it too..

This is prejudiced and un-fair to us that have been reading these forums for a while but don't post often. Does this mean fanboys only ?

No, it means, perhaps, you should participate here more. There's plenty of subject matter I'm sure you could find to comment on. Now get busy! Get to postin'!