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#3497439 - 01/18/12 10:22 AM Re: Piston Twins [Re: RogueRunner]
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Originally Posted By: RogueRunner
Few things to think about.

The guys making the engines for the twinstar went belly up so you'll have parts issues when something breaks or overhaul time.



Diamond, the makers of the twinstar build their own engine now and have done so for quite some time (austro engine). I beleive thielert is still selling engines and operating but the supplier / demand + reliabilty issue saw diamond quickly develop their own engines.

The Austro engine is heavier than the thielerts, provide a bit more beef, but diamond have beefed up the landing gear to compensate.

For me, i would go with the twin star. It doesn't have the largest payload, nor is it the fastest (actually its quite slow compared to some twins). But to have a single engine service ceiling of around 14,000 ft on a twin is very impressive not to mention very safe. It also runs on jet a1 which is more abundant than Avgas and far cheaper to run. Engines are watercooled, so no shock cooling. Full fadec (which includes prop pitch as well) and its a very good IFR tourer with impressive range.

For me, that would be the one to take.

Actually.................... I would just love to be ABLE to own my own plane, instead of flying others. lol


Edited by bogusheadbox (01/18/12 10:24 AM)
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#3497445 - 01/18/12 10:29 AM Re: Piston Twins [Re: bogusheadbox]
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Originally Posted By: bogusheadbox
Originally Posted By: RogueRunner
Few things to think about.

The guys making the engines for the twinstar went belly up so you'll have parts issues when something breaks or overhaul time.



Diamond, the makers of the twinstar build their own engine now and have done so for quite some time (austro engine). I beleive thielert is still selling engines and operating but the supplier / demand + reliabilty issue saw diamond quickly develop their own engines.

The Austro engine is heavier than the thielerts, provide a bit more beef, but diamond have beefed up the landing gear to compensate.

For me, i would go with the twin star. It doesn't have the largest payload, nor is it the fastest (actually its quite slow compared to some twins). But to have a single engine service ceiling of around 14,000 ft on a twin is very impressive not to mention very safe. It also runs on jet a1 which is more abundant than Avgas and far cheaper to run. Engines are watercooled, so no shock cooling. Full fadec (which includes prop pitch as well) and its a very good IFR tourer with impressive range.

For me, that would be the one to take.

Actually.................... I would just love to be ABLE to own my own plane, instead of flying others. lol


Those are some nice points. And I like the way it looks, too. I've got a pile of them in X-Plane 9 and like it in the sim.

Well, if my ship comes in, who knows? But as Jim Croce once sang, "I keep waitin' for my ship to come in, but all that ever come is the tide."

Cheers!

Rick... biggrin
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#3497650 - 01/18/12 02:16 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Speedo]
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Originally Posted By: Speedo
Two pages and no one mentions the P-38? For shame.



I was trying to keep it under the $1.5M mentioned LOL

But, since we have no limits now, without a doubt...

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#3497672 - 01/18/12 02:45 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Sauron]
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A P-61 Black Widow. I built one of those as a kid.

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#3497680 - 01/18/12 02:51 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Sauron]
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I thought this was going to be a thread on 2 hot cheerleader twins for the Detroit Pistons! Imagine my disappointment...
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#3497686 - 01/18/12 02:56 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Sauron]
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Fokker G1, with some decent engines:


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#3497694 - 01/18/12 03:02 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: JAMF]
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Originally Posted By: JAMF
Fokker G1, with some decent engines:


Now I do like the look of the FW189 A /B

Or then the PBY5 Catalina would also be nice and it has room for a few friends to come along on the trip
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#3497909 - 01/18/12 09:44 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Tarnsman]
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Originally Posted By: Tarnsman
It has the spining pinwheel thingies.


Yeah. They're just there to let you know the engine is running...those big exhaust pipes pointing at 'em will spin 'em real nice. wink
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#3497919 - 01/18/12 10:18 PM Re: Piston Twins [Re: Sauron]
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I'd like a Citation Ten thanks. smile

But seriously ..... out of all the piston twins I ever flew, the nicest was the Piper Aerostar 601P. I'd love to have flown the 700P as it's got more grunt and that's what they needed getting off the runway and up to a safe speed.
Managed to get the 601P up to 27,000' once. smile
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