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#3491816 - 01/10/12 02:11 PM [SOLVED] QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets
Tolwyn Offline
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For the life of me, I cannot get AI Ace TA 183s to engage any target (me) with their guided rockets.
They just kinda fly around.

?


Edited by Tolwyn (01/13/12 03:47 PM)
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#3491962 - 01/10/12 05:52 PM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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LOL... couldn't help laughing at the predicament. You're *trying* to get shot at with missiles by AI Aces in Ta-183's??

I have no ready answer for the non-shooting AI Aces, sorry. Do they fire missiles at your own AI flight-mates, or any other opposing aircraft? Is it possible that AI Aces disdain the use of missiles, and prefer guns/cannons? Perhaps try a lower enemy AI experience level with guns loaded.

As for your virtual self's self-destructive nature, I'm sure there is a 12-step plan available that may help.
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#3491998 - 01/10/12 06:34 PM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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I've messed around quite a bit with the X4 missile.They like to shoot at bombers and not fighters. What are you flying? The X4 was designed for taking down the B17, B24, Lancaster, Lincoln and B29. They will wail away on the B17, B24 and B29. I used them to look like an early SAM missile in for my Alternate History timeline.

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#3492313 - 01/11/12 07:25 AM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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I'll give that a try.

I was just bored going through the QMB (have tried all skill levels) plane by plane, and noticed this quirk.

I'll jump in a bomber and see if they do anything.
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#3492368 - 01/11/12 08:43 AM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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I did notice when I was in the TA-183 group (me and 3 aces) that they didn't engage the B-29s until ordered, just sailed along oblivious, then when ordered they cut loose with the X-4s and wiped them out. It's like they are vision impaired, or using bomber AI or something. I only tried it 1X so not sure if it happens every time.

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#3492587 - 01/11/12 12:26 PM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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Nope. They won't attack anything.
Code:
[MAIN]
  MAP Empty1a/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[SEASON]
  Year 1940
  Month 6
  Day 15
[WEATHER]
  WindDirection 0.0
  WindSpeed 0.0
  Gust 0
  Turbulence 0
[MDS]
  MDS_Radar_SetRadarToAdvanceMode 0
  MDS_Radar_RefreshInterval 0
  MDS_Radar_DisableVectoring 0
  MDS_Radar_EnableTowerCommunications 1
  MDS_Radar_ShipsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxRange 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MinHeight 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxHeight 5000
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxRange 25
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MinHeight 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxHeight 2000
  MDS_Radar_ScoutsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_MaxRange 2
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_DeltaHeight 1500
  MDS_Radar_HideUnpopulatedAirstripsFromMinimap 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutGroundObjects_Alpha 5
  MDS_Radar_ScoutCompleteRecon 0
  MDS_Misc_DisableAIRadioChatter 0
  MDS_Misc_DespawnAIPlanesAfterLanding 1
  MDS_Misc_HidePlayersCountOnHomeBase 0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat1_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat2_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat3_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
[RespawnTime]
  Bigship 1800
  Ship 1800
  Aeroanchored 1800
  Artillery 1800
  Searchlight 1800
[Wing]
  r0100
  g0100
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.B_17D
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.42 7571.10 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16457.14 20843.66 3000.00 250.00 &0
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.TA_183
  Fuel 50
  weapons 4x4
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.41 5208.34 3000.00 350.00 r0100 0 &0
  NORMFLY 16621.51 20884.75 3000.00 350.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]
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#3492613 - 01/11/12 12:43 PM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
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You didn't quite set up the mission correctly. Try this:

Code:
[MAIN]
  MAP Empty1a/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[SEASON]
  Year 1940
  Month 6
  Day 15
[WEATHER]
  WindDirection 0.0
  WindSpeed 0.0
  Gust 0
  Turbulence 0
[MDS]
  MDS_Radar_SetRadarToAdvanceMode 0
  MDS_Radar_RefreshInterval 0
  MDS_Radar_DisableVectoring 0
  MDS_Radar_EnableTowerCommunications 1
  MDS_Radar_ShipsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxRange 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MinHeight 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxHeight 5000
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxRange 25
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MinHeight 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxHeight 2000
  MDS_Radar_ScoutsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_MaxRange 2
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_DeltaHeight 1500
  MDS_Radar_HideUnpopulatedAirstripsFromMinimap 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutGroundObjects_Alpha 5
  MDS_Radar_ScoutCompleteRecon 0
  MDS_Misc_DisableAIRadioChatter 0
  MDS_Misc_DespawnAIPlanesAfterLanding 1
  MDS_Misc_HidePlayersCountOnHomeBase 0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat1_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat2_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat3_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
[RespawnTime]
  Bigship 1800
  Ship 1800
  Aeroanchored 1800
  Artillery 1800
  Searchlight 1800
[Wing]
  r0100
  g0100
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.B_17D
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.42 7571.10 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16457.14 20843.66 3000.00 250.00 &0
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.TA_183
  Fuel 50
  weapons 4x4
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.41 5208.34 3000.00 350.00 r0100 0 &0
  NORMFLY 16621.51 20884.75 3000.00 350.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]


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#3492740 - 01/11/12 02:40 PM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Aviar]
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Originally Posted By: Aviar
You didn't quite set up the mission correctly. Try this:

Code:
[MAIN]
  MAP Empty1a/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[SEASON]
  Year 1940
  Month 6
  Day 15
[WEATHER]
  WindDirection 0.0
  WindSpeed 0.0
  Gust 0
  Turbulence 0
[MDS]
  MDS_Radar_SetRadarToAdvanceMode 0
  MDS_Radar_RefreshInterval 0
  MDS_Radar_DisableVectoring 0
  MDS_Radar_EnableTowerCommunications 1
  MDS_Radar_ShipsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxRange 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MinHeight 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxHeight 5000
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxRange 25
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MinHeight 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxHeight 2000
  MDS_Radar_ScoutsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_MaxRange 2
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_DeltaHeight 1500
  MDS_Radar_HideUnpopulatedAirstripsFromMinimap 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutGroundObjects_Alpha 5
  MDS_Radar_ScoutCompleteRecon 0
  MDS_Misc_DisableAIRadioChatter 0
  MDS_Misc_DespawnAIPlanesAfterLanding 1
  MDS_Misc_HidePlayersCountOnHomeBase 0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat1_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat2_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat3_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
[RespawnTime]
  Bigship 1800
  Ship 1800
  Aeroanchored 1800
  Artillery 1800
  Searchlight 1800
[Wing]
  r0100
  g0100
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.B_17D
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.42 7571.10 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16457.14 20843.66 3000.00 250.00 &0
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.TA_183
  Fuel 50
  weapons 4x4
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.41 5208.34 3000.00 350.00 r0100 0 &0
  NORMFLY 16621.51 20884.75 3000.00 350.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]


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Are you sure you didn't post the wrong thing? I can't find anything different between your .mis file and Tolwyns??


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Originally Posted By: Tolwyn
Nope. They won't attack anything.
Code:
[MAIN]
  MAP Empty1a/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[SEASON]
  Year 1940
  Month 6
  Day 15
[WEATHER]
  WindDirection 0.0
  WindSpeed 0.0
  Gust 0
  Turbulence 0
[MDS]
  MDS_Radar_SetRadarToAdvanceMode 0
  MDS_Radar_RefreshInterval 0
  MDS_Radar_DisableVectoring 0
  MDS_Radar_EnableTowerCommunications 1
  MDS_Radar_ShipsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxRange 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MinHeight 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxHeight 5000
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxRange 25
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MinHeight 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxHeight 2000
  MDS_Radar_ScoutsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_MaxRange 2
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_DeltaHeight 1500
  MDS_Radar_HideUnpopulatedAirstripsFromMinimap 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutGroundObjects_Alpha 5
  MDS_Radar_ScoutCompleteRecon 0
  MDS_Misc_DisableAIRadioChatter 0
  MDS_Misc_DespawnAIPlanesAfterLanding 1
  MDS_Misc_HidePlayersCountOnHomeBase 0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat1_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat2_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat3_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
[RespawnTime]
  Bigship 1800
  Ship 1800
  Aeroanchored 1800
  Artillery 1800
  Searchlight 1800
[Wing]
  r0100
  g0100
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.B_17D
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.42 7571.10 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16457.14 20843.66 3000.00 250.00 &0
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.TA_183
  Fuel 50
  weapons 4x4
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16580.41 5208.34 3000.00 350.00 r0100 0 &0
  NORMFLY 16621.51 20884.75 3000.00 350.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]
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#3493022 - 01/12/12 12:38 AM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
Aviar Online content
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Registered: 06/12/00
Posts: 2084
Loc: Passaic County, NJ USA
My bad...I posted the original mission instead of the one I edited. Here is the original with a simple change that makes it 'work':

Code:
 [MAIN]
  MAP Empty1a/load.ini
  TIME 12.0
  CloudType 0
  CloudHeight 1000.0
  army 1
  playerNum 0
[SEASON]
  Year 1940
  Month 6
  Day 15
[WEATHER]
  WindDirection 0.0
  WindSpeed 0.0
  Gust 0
  Turbulence 0
[MDS]
  MDS_Radar_SetRadarToAdvanceMode 0
  MDS_Radar_RefreshInterval 0
  MDS_Radar_DisableVectoring 0
  MDS_Radar_EnableTowerCommunications 1
  MDS_Radar_ShipsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxRange 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MinHeight 100
  MDS_Radar_ShipRadar_MaxHeight 5000
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxRange 25
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MinHeight 0
  MDS_Radar_ShipSmallRadar_MaxHeight 2000
  MDS_Radar_ScoutsAsRadar 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_MaxRange 2
  MDS_Radar_ScoutRadar_DeltaHeight 1500
  MDS_Radar_HideUnpopulatedAirstripsFromMinimap 0
  MDS_Radar_ScoutGroundObjects_Alpha 5
  MDS_Radar_ScoutCompleteRecon 0
  MDS_Misc_DisableAIRadioChatter 0
  MDS_Misc_DespawnAIPlanesAfterLanding 1
  MDS_Misc_HidePlayersCountOnHomeBase 0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat1_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat2_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
  MDS_Misc_BombsCat3_CratersVisibilityMultiplier 1.0
[RespawnTime]
  Bigship 1800
  Ship 1800
  Aeroanchored 1800
  Artillery 1800
  Searchlight 1800
[Wing]
  r0100
  g0100
[r0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.B_17D
  Fuel 100
  weapons default
[r0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16596.81 9013.35 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16391.58 25285.15 3000.00 250.00 &0
  NORMFLY 22928.55 18028.17 3000.00 400.00 &0
[g0100]
  Planes 1
  Skill 1
  Class air.TA_183
  Fuel 50
  weapons 4x4
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 16678.75 947.14 3000.00 400.00 &0
  NORMFLY 16651.47 2999.23 3000.00 400.00 r0100 0 &0
  NORMFLY 16588.73 25178.73 3000.00 350.00 &0
  NORMFLY 22830.22 17634.83 3000.00 400.00 &0
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]


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#3493349 - 01/12/12 10:23 AM Re: QMB TA 183 with Guided Rockets [Re: Tolwyn]
Tolwyn Offline
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Registered: 02/06/00
Posts: 3725
Loc: WA, United States
That works. Ok. Thanks, Aviar.
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