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#3491776 - 01/10/12 01:18 PM
$600,000 missing infantry gear!
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I heard this on FOX News (the only news you should listen to!) and no dollar amount was provided.  hopefully, it is just missing and not some dips**t trying to sell on black market! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/01/-lewis-mcchord-army-equipment.htmlAbout 100 soldiers from Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state remained confined to base Monday as U.S. Army officials tried to trace $600,000 worth of missing high-tech equipment. The equipment includes sophisticated rifle scopes, laser sights and night-vision equipment -- gear described by Army officials as "sensitive" but not necessarily dangerous to the public.
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#3491862 - 01/10/12 03:32 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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#3491885 - 01/10/12 04:03 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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that's either a lot of missing gear or a lot of expensive ones.
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#3491947 - 01/10/12 05:30 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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There will be some soldiers going to Leavenworth over this.
I remember one time a soldier jumped off a Bradley and stuck his rifle against a tree while taking a whiz. He jumped back on his track and took off, forgetting the weapon.
Of course he didn't say anything for four days and then admitted to it just as we were about ready to come in from the field. We were on lockdown for five days, in the field while we looked for that rifle. The knucklehead couldn't remember where he stuck the weapon either so we had to go, double arm interval across three training areas looking for that damned rifle.
I was the one that found it. Got a four day pass for it too. The soldier that lost the weapon went from PFC to PV1 overnight, got 30 days detention at the post detention facility (Corrective Care Facility or Charlie's Chicken Farm as we called it). Lets just say he didn't stay in the army much longer after that.
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#3491955 - 01/10/12 05:44 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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There will be some soldiers going to Leavenworth over this.
I remember one time a soldier jumped off a Bradley and stuck his rifle against a tree while taking a whiz. He jumped back on his track and took off, forgetting the weapon.
Of course he didn't say anything for four days and then admitted to it just as we were about ready to come in from the field. We were on lockdown for five days, in the field while we looked for that rifle. The knucklehead couldn't remember where he stuck the weapon either so we had to go, double arm interval across three training areas looking for that damned rifle.
I was the one that found it. Got a four day pass for it too. The soldier that lost the weapon went from PFC to PV1 overnight, got 30 days detention at the post detention facility (Corrective Care Facility or Charlie's Chicken Farm as we called it). Lets just say he didn't stay in the army much longer after that.
Reminds me of a jump while on active duty. This LT lost his m9 (broke the lanyard) just as he exited the aircraft. The whole unit spent three days combing the drop zone for it. The DZ had quite a bit of wooded area too. We did find it in the end though.
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#3491959 - 01/10/12 05:48 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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You don't want to be in a U S military unit that loses a weapon. It is no fun.
That is why I go nuts when they talk about the FBI having hundreds of weapons missing.
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#3492056 - 01/10/12 08:33 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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Yep, there's no forgiveness or leniency for that in any of the services. Another one they hate is missing unit movement. I saw a lot of youngsters in the Navy get hammered over the years because they waited until the last minute to part company with their girlfriend and didn't make it in time. That'll cost you. You get there and your airplane is retracting its gear and climbing out or the chopper is fading into the distance or your vessel is underway already and you're not aboard, you better believe there's dismal times ahead. Better to kiss her goodbye early. Cheers! Rick... 
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#3492133 - 01/10/12 11:55 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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Someone in my unit losing a weapon or other sensitive item was always my biggest fear when I was in charge of the company arms room.
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#3492151 - 01/11/12 12:56 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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You don't want to be in a U S military unit that loses a weapon. It is no fun.
That is why I go nuts when they talk about the FBI having hundreds of weapons missing. Know the feeling. We once miscounted our explosives stock when I was in my service (I was a munition specialist), which made it seem like a pound of C-3 was missing. Boy that started a mess, but thankfully after three more counts we had ensured that it was in fact, not missing.
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#3492155 - 01/11/12 01:11 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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You don't want to be in a U S military unit that loses a weapon. It is no fun. Especially if you live off post and have to sleep on a cot in the barracks hallway for 11 days because some idiot lost his weapon during a FTX...it's not high on my "To Do Again" list, for sure. 
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#3492392 - 01/11/12 09:34 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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We had a unit in our battalion "misplace" a .50cal once... that was a party I would just as soon have missed.
After 4 days of going over the whole of Grafenwöhr with a fine toothed comb twice, in Febuary, it turns out the .50 was in the arms room the whole time.
It was issued out but was never actually picked up, I heard several people got busted down so low they were saluting civilians over this little accounting error.
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#3492478 - 01/11/12 10:54 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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Heh. You think being in a unit with missing firearms sucks? How'd you like to be there when someone reports, "Sir, we've just finished the inventory, we recounted five times, and it appears that one of the B61's is missing." Cheers! Rick... 
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#3492485 - 01/11/12 11:01 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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There will be some soldiers going to Leavenworth over this.
I remember one time a soldier jumped off a Bradley and stuck his rifle against a tree while taking a whiz. He jumped back on his track and took off, forgetting the weapon.
Of course he didn't say anything for four days and then admitted to it just as we were about ready to come in from the field. We were on lockdown for five days, in the field while we looked for that rifle. The knucklehead couldn't remember where he stuck the weapon either so we had to go, double arm interval across three training areas looking for that damned rifle.
I was the one that found it. Got a four day pass for it too. The soldier that lost the weapon went from PFC to PV1 overnight, got 30 days detention at the post detention facility (Corrective Care Facility or Charlie's Chicken Farm as we called it). Lets just say he didn't stay in the army much longer after that.
Reminds me of a jump while on active duty. This LT lost his m9 (broke the lanyard) just as he exited the aircraft. The whole unit spent three days combing the drop zone for it. The DZ had quite a bit of wooded area too. We did find it in the end though. Yep same thing happened to me. A Dumb A** lost his nightvision on a drop. We spent 5 looking for it. Found it in the end though
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#3492549 - 01/11/12 11:56 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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One year at Yakima Firing Center (USMC), some US Army Reserves AH-1 Cobras arrived on base towards the end of our time there. Someone, likely a Canadian Reservist, probably tried to steal two of the NVG's out of them. Either way they were missing. We had no idea until the day we had convoys to leave, and the Canadian and American MP's were searching each truck completely before each convoy would leave!
Another time the dummy in our patrol never bothered to tighten the screws mounting his C79 Elcan scope to his C9 (M249 SAW), and it fell off without him noticing. Took a half an hour to find, but he had a high pucker factor!
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#3492553 - 01/11/12 11:57 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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The best has to have been the B-52 all nuked-out that somehow "lost track" of it's inventory...USAF had to do a review of it's entire procedures to ensure no repeats.
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#3492555 - 01/11/12 11:59 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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I've never been in the military but it seems to me that people who tend to be forgetful are probably not the best candidates to be in the military. 
Edited by PanzerMeyer (01/11/12 12:13 PM)
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#3492566 - 01/11/12 12:08 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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I've never been in the military but it seems to me that people who tend to be forgetfull are probably not the best candidates to be in the military. Hmmm, what's this about anyway? 
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#3492601 - 01/11/12 12:36 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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Any news yet on whether the inventory is stolen, misplaced/human error, or worst - black market inside job? Two out of three of these could be bad news for more than those in the unit.
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#3492681 - 01/11/12 01:39 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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Heh. You think being in a unit with missing firearms sucks? How'd you like to be there when someone reports, "Sir, we've just finished the inventory, we recounted five times, and it appears that one of the B61's is missing." Cheers! Rick... If the B61 is what I just found on Google then that would be a loss that I wouldn't want to have to report.  Wheels
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#3494894 - 01/14/12 12:36 PM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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I've never been in the military but it seems to me that people who tend to be forgetful are probably not the best candidates to be in the military. LOL!! It's more true than for just weapons/equipment...it's also challenge/response words, patrol RV locations, radio channels, which pocket you stuffed your rain jacket in (no REALLY!), what the exact wording of the third item from the ROE's is, was there one stream or two streams marked on the map? Who's the two new dummies who can't be trusted to "make safe" without checking? And that's just for starters.
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#3499184 - 01/20/12 06:36 AM
Re: $600,000 missing infantry gear!
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I heard this on FOX News (the only news you should listen to!) and no dollar amount was provided. hopefully, it is just missing and not some dips**t trying to sell on black market! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/01/-lewis-mcchord-army-equipment.htmlAbout 100 soldiers from Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state remained confined to base Monday as U.S. Army officials tried to trace $600,000 worth of missing high-tech equipment. The equipment includes sophisticated rifle scopes, laser sights and night-vision equipment -- gear described by Army officials as "sensitive" but not necessarily dangerous to the public. These things just happen from time to time. This is how the bad people in bad movies have those big bags full of nasty guns.
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