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#3488572 - 01/05/12 10:40 PM WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$#
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I have no played it but the head guy at orbx broke his NDA

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/358739-since-the-cat-is-out-of-the-bag/


here is a video on youtube a real shame because there are a few cool things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVgUuDY1UjM


Edited by coreyhkh (01/05/12 11:20 PM)


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#3488612 - 01/06/12 12:03 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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I just deleted the beta after spending about 3 hours with it between yesterday and today. I won't go into why, but the video link posted above speaks for itself. I sent a email to Microsoft that I dont have time to waste testing an arcade game. Nuff said!

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#3488642 - 01/06/12 01:57 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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It will be a huge hit with the console crowd meaning more of the same in the future. frown


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#3488687 - 01/06/12 05:24 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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What a major f*ck up this GAME is!!
AND WHAT?? 3rd party people can't design add-ons for it!! The flight model shown in the video posted by the OP of this thread looks even less realistic than ARMA fixed wing flight model!! Only models the Hawaii islands instead of the WHOLE WORLD like the previous Microsoft Flight Simulators did!!!

I've been playing Microsoft Fligh Simulator since version 5.0 but I'll simply pass this Microsoft Flight GAME and I hope that Microsoft shoots itself on the foot regarding this GAME and that doesn't get any profit with this major f*ck up!!!
Bye bye Microsoft!!

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#3488702 - 01/06/12 06:40 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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Yeah, like that youtube video possibly couldn't have been posted by a user with an agenda? Right?

Funny how other, more objective, users have stated the FM is BETTER than FSX.

And the guy at ORBX could never have a vested interest in seeing Flight fail since he's involved with Prepar3D, right?

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#3488715 - 01/06/12 07:16 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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Evil Flower;

Are you SERIOUS?

Have you ever flown the real thing by chance? I have no affiliations to anybody, but this is definately the end of Microsoft Flight Simulator, that's for sure.

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#3488727 - 01/06/12 07:50 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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@ "Bad Flower":

Lets assume that something like 1 on a million happens and that you're right that the Microsoft Flight game flight model is in fact good and what is shown in the video is something like a very early beta or even the player as the "dificulty settings" on "easy" but nevertheless this microsoft flight game does:

--> NOT ALLOW 3rd party add-ons (aircraft, scenarios, etc...)
--> NOT MODEL the entire wold (while the entire world does exists the rest of world does not have textures and topography)
--> Want to fly in an another part of the world?? You have to wait for microsoft to model it and than purchase it!!

The lack of these two features which were basically the most important ones in microsoft flight SIMULATOR are more than enough to classify this microsoft flight GAME as a major f*ck up!!!

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#3488769 - 01/06/12 09:11 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: ricnunes]
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
@ "Bad Flower":

Lets assume that something like 1 on a million happens and that you're right that the Microsoft Flight game flight model is in fact good and what is shown in the video is something like a very early beta or even the player as the "dificulty settings" on "easy" but nevertheless this microsoft flight game does:

--> NOT ALLOW 3rd party add-ons (aircraft, scenarios, etc...)
--> NOT MODEL the entire wold (while the entire world does exists the rest of world does not have textures and topography)
--> Want to fly in an another part of the world?? You have to wait for microsoft to model it and than purchase it!!

The lack of these two features which were basically the most important ones in microsoft flight SIMULATOR are more than enough to classify this microsoft flight GAME as a major f*ck up!!!

Look, it was already stated that "the game scales down to allow WASD + mouse control WHILE retaining full procedures hardcoresim blabla for those who want it". We've even had a thread here confirm that "The FM feels way better than FSX". So how hard is it to tune the game to the lowest realism settings and then produce a video with which you can point and say "haha no SIM" (Because we all know fat nerds like to capitalise SIM like that just in case, you know, someone could confuse PC flightsims as being entertainment. No way, SIMs are dead serious man!) and get a bunch of reactionary grognards all worked up.

PROTIP: Any PC simulator is a piece of entertainment software, and thus by definition a game. Even DCS is a game, whodathunkit.

Besides, I used to play FS back when it was still SubLogic Flight Simulator and guess what, you had to wait for SubLogic to build "Scenery Disks" which you could then order and buy. So this move isn't any different. Besides, who cares about having the entire globe modelled if this means boring generic autogenerated areas? I'd rather fly over a piece of nicely modelled scenery that actually looks like the real thing. Besides, no 3rd party content? Who cares. You can still get that for FSX, and for the actual end user having only official addons means less installation problems, less problems with mod conflicts, less places to go to to find good stuff, centralized art direction, less variance in quality level. Which means we'll probably be able to buy our California or East Coast scenery for like $15 a piece instead of having to pay $100 to ORBX or whatever. So for anyone who isn't a hardcore simmer (pretty much about 99% of gamers) who spends $2000 on addons and peripherals and untold hours setting everything up all this user-friendlyness is a net positive. And to top it off, because the business model is F2P, this means individual addons will likely be cheaper since they're what drives the profits.

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#3488828 - 01/06/12 10:31 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: coreyhkh]
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After watching the video and reading various comments on this forum as well as the beta forum I can see MS expanding the content as well as implementing features to make Flight just as enjoyable as FSX - for example stress reactions on the air frame during extreme maneuvers or collapsing gear during hard landings. All of these I can see being scale-able.

I will take a wait and see approach to Flight - I'm not ready to write it off just yet.

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#3488833 - 01/06/12 10:37 AM Re: WOW MS FLIGHT IS #%&*$# [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Besides, who cares about having the entire globe modelled if this means boring generic autogenerated areas? I'd rather fly over a piece of nicely modelled scenery that actually looks like the real thing. Besides, no 3rd party content? Who cares.


I care!! These are my 2 favorite features that FS have and it's these features that set the FS series apart from any other sim in the market and if I'm not mistaken the vast majority of FS players also care about these 2 features. You don't care? fine but I'm betting that you belong to a vast minority regarding this (of course I could be wrong but I doubt it wink )

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