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#3487818 - 01/05/12 12:48 AM
Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01...ts-defense.htmlBoeing Co. plans to shutter operations in Wichita, Kansas, where it has built airplanes since 1929, by the end of 2013 as military projects dry up amid U.S. spending constraints.
Job reductions at the plant that employs more than 2,160 workers will begin in the third quarter of 2012, Boeing said in a statement today. Work on the aerial-refueling tankers the Pentagon ordered in February will be done at the planemaker’s wide-body jet factory in Washington state instead, and some existing work will be moved to Texas and Oklahoma.
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#3487819 - 01/05/12 12:51 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Not very good news for anyone living in Wichita Kansas. What else do they have there to keep their economy going?
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#3487823 - 01/05/12 01:03 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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It's 2000 jobs out of a metro population of over 600,000. It's not like it is the citys only employers.
Hawker Beechcraft, Bombardier, Cessna, and Airbus still have plants there.
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#3487826 - 01/05/12 01:06 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Non-agriculture workforce in Wikita: construction and mining: 16,100
manufacturing: 58,400
trade, transportation and utilities: 49,500
information: 6,100
financial activities: 12,200
professional and business services: 26,300
educational and health services: 38,400
leisure and hospitality: 25,200
other services: 12,100
government: 38,500
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#3487833 - 01/05/12 01:21 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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It's 2000 jobs out of a metro population of over 600,000. It's not like it is the citys only employers.
Hawker Beechcraft, Bombardier, Cessna, and Airbus still have plants there. I would think part of the reason those companies have plants there is because of Boeing. How many tier 2, 3,and 4 Boeing suppliers will leave or go out of business because Boeing is gone? Hopefully they shrug the loss of jobs off like its nothing but I highly doubt it since it's never just those jobs at the main plant that are lost. Wheels
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#3487842 - 01/05/12 02:02 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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It's 2000 jobs out of a metro population of over 600,000. It's not like it is the citys only employers.
Hawker Beechcraft, Bombardier, Cessna, and Airbus still have plants there. I would think part of the reason those companies have plants there is because of Boeing. How many tier 2, 3,and 4 Boeing suppliers will leave or go out of business because Boeing is gone? Hopefully they shrug the loss of jobs off like its nothing but I highly doubt it since it's never just those jobs at the main plant that are lost. Wheels Those suppliers will continue to supply parts to Boeing, just to Ohio and Washington instead according to Boeing.
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#3487854 - 01/05/12 03:03 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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as if it were such a minor or trivial closure.
how about all the courier deliveries, local businesses that benefited or relied entirely upon boeing being there?
that closure is going to shake up wichita. they're going to have to scramble to rebuild the big hole boeing's absence will cause in the local economy.
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#3487856 - 01/05/12 03:08 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Big hole? it's only 2000 jobs out of over 200k workers in Wikita. And alot of those can get new jobs at once if they bother moving. Boeing is hiring several hundred new jobs in Columbus, Ohio to deal with the 767 airborne refueling contract, and several hundred in Seattle as well for that.
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#3487857 - 01/05/12 03:09 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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As for courier/deliver services: they get even more profit out of it! because the parts that used to go form sub-contractors in Wikita to the Boeing plant there, now has to be shipped out of state to WA or OH. Profit!
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#3487925 - 01/05/12 05:37 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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A company's function is not to aid local economies, it's to make money for what it does. Obviously Boeing isn't going to make money off this plant. The end for the plant.
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#3487988 - 01/05/12 06:44 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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A company's function is not to aid local economies, it's to make money for what it does. Exactly.
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#3488019 - 01/05/12 07:33 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Sad news indeed. My prayers goes out to all those families involved.
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#3488071 - 01/05/12 08:52 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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It's 2000 jobs out of a metro population of over 600,000. It's not like it is the citys only employers.
Hawker Beechcraft, Bombardier, Cessna, and Airbus still have plants there. I would think part of the reason those companies have plants there is because of Boeing. How many tier 2, 3,and 4 Boeing suppliers will leave or go out of business because Boeing is gone? Hopefully they shrug the loss of jobs off like its nothing but I highly doubt it since it's never just those jobs at the main plant that are lost. Wheels Not to mention that even a smaller plant is often a considerable source of revenue for city and public services. I've seen cases where a town losing a 50 man plant was enough tax and utility revenue losses to completely eliminate the city police force.
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#3488100 - 01/05/12 09:32 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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If anything, this should be a wake up call to all cities both large and small that they have to diversify their local economies as much as possible. Nothing lasts forever. Detroit is learning that lesson the hard way.
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#3488140 - 01/05/12 10:39 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Not very good news for anyone living in Wichita Kansas. What else do they have there to keep their economy going?
Wheels They have linemen, apparently, working for the county.
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#3488160 - 01/05/12 10:59 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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I do a lot in ICT. In fact, I've been there once this week already and spent 18 nights in Wichita last calendar year. Anyway, it is a real kick in the nuts for them and the domino effect on vendors, etc. will be real. But it want be a smoking hole either. There is a lot of oil and gas, etc.
Plus, already they are working on trying to get Embraer to come in there as they've openly talked about a U.S. manufacturing base for a long time.
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#3488162 - 01/05/12 11:04 AM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Sorry for typos. On my phone actually from Andover, which is just outside Wichita.
I don't begrudge Boeing. They've got to so what makes biz sense. Plus, the overall economy is pretty okay here compared with many places. We are a right to work state and have what I'd call a very business friendly environment for job creators.
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#3488250 - 01/05/12 12:41 PM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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The same Boeing that was caught bunging bribes for said tanker contract still got it in the end anyway ?
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#3488411 - 01/05/12 03:22 PM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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End of an era. My father got his first steady job after serving in WWII at Boeing Wichita building B-47s and B-52s. Because of that, I was born there. My Dad then worked for Boeing building all of the Minuteman missile sites all over the northern tier, and then 737s and 747s in Seattle.
Does anyone know where Boeing plans to finish the new 767 tankers, as that work was always done in Wichita in the past.
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#3488429 - 01/05/12 03:49 PM
Re: Boeing to Close Wichita Plant
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Hey, HammFist!
I don't know for sure about finishing the tankers. I think OKC makes sense but I've heard a lot of people in political spots in Kansas say Everett.
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