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#3491301 - 01/10/12 04:36 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
I'm wondering if we can have few scenarios of Chinese using S75 to down RB57. It's probably not challenging like shooting Gary Powers, but interesting never the less. What say you?

I would need map of the event, location of the SAM batteries (preferably Google Earth Coordinates), and name of the Batteries.


That probably will be problematic to find. I'll try to search CIA but probably I will not find anything enough to model this.



To anyone interested, here's an interesting article on CIA website about U-2 flights
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001085869/DOC_0001085869.pdf


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#3491304 - 01/10/12 04:39 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Against an F-117, 20% chance of detonation from radio proxy fuse, is at 20/30m
(5E11/5H49)


Damn! aaa, could you leave fuses like they are in the moment? biggrin

Seriosly, how measured it against F-117?
Did Colonel Dani reveales information of the distance of the missile to F-117 in the moment of detonation?
As I know, the F-117 is steltiest in head-on, but from the side has bigger reflection, maybe that would be in our favor when we are going for a kill...

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#3491311 - 01/10/12 05:32 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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I wonder when there will be a decision that will continue after the Dvina!

Whether or not the Shilka and Patriot do not know anything at all.

When will we know when a decision is not clear.

Many people have asked in the Russian forum!

"We wanted to look at the Patriot or the Shilka."

Nothing is known no plans at all.

At least roughly what is expected?

sigh

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#3491315 - 01/10/12 05:36 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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And yet at the site of the CIA is not particularly better than they climb Keep track of all.

We must think a bit to have climbed!

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#3491321 - 01/10/12 06:04 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Nothing is known no plans at all.
At least roughly what is expected?


"Good things come to those who wait, but only things left behind by those who hustle."
— Abraham Lincoln


in meantime study!
here is great russian sam library;
http://historykpvo.narod2.ru/

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#3491342 - 01/10/12 07:04 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
In the next bugfix version-923.1, the (Dvina/Volhov) launchers will have their elevation limited to a maximum of 75 degrees.
(The SNR has 65degree elevation angle at this case.)
If you elevate the SNR over 65 degree, the SINHR PU lamps will extinguish, and missiles cannot be launched.


I AM SERVING OF PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM!
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#3491346 - 01/10/12 07:17 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Ya hero, say a word to Politbiuro to have me released from Gulag.
BTW, not a single word of self-critics to be expected from me. Downing B-52s is BORING (nothing more than airliners) and from tactical point of view, of no use after they have released their payload.

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#3491365 - 01/10/12 08:06 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: vintorez]
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Comrade Hpasp, please release comrade Vintorez from Siberia and bring him back on active duty! We need every capable officer (and he sure is!) to defend the sky over Motherland!!!

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#3491385 - 01/10/12 08:32 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: vintorez]
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Don't you think they may... RELOAD AND COME BACK another day (night)?
And by the way, how high a loss ratio would be acceptable for the USAF?

Originally Posted By: vintorez
Downing B-52s is BORING (nothing more than airliners) and from tactical point of view, of no use after they have released their payload.


Edited by MK_PL (01/10/12 08:33 AM)

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#3491390 - 01/10/12 08:41 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
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Comrade Hpasp, please release comrade Vintorez from Siberia and bring him back on active duty! We need every capable officer (and he sure is!) to defend the sky over Motherland!!!

Only if he presents the after action report of the 26th of December, at least 3 B52 downed, using 6 missiles max.
santa
We are joking here, but it was really serious issue those days...


And by the way, how high a loss ratio would be acceptable for the USAF?

5% officially, but when they approached it, they planned missions well away from the SAM defended areas.


Edited by Hpasp (01/10/12 08:58 AM)
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