I'm going back to "Hollywood" on this, in Flyboys one pilot shoots a balloon with a flare gun and it blows up. I did try this on line before the update and pilots pack but I couldn't aim it right..I wonder now...

EDIT: I'm wrong, it was in the movie Red Baron. Good flick if you like Germans that speak with a English accent.

I managed to kill myself with the Colt.

Just aim at the seat and fire 4 times. Each shot increases the red screen until death.

I also did damage to my own wing that was visible from both cockpit and external views.

Apparently not. But you can do it with a .45. I'd like to see someone do it to an enemy in flight, that would be tough, but sitting at the aerodrome, engine idling, one of my squadmates in the plane next to me emptied his .45 into my engine, and it began to burn. My screen began to turn red... that's when I hit "finish flight." So I think it would be possible in flight, if you could just score several hits to the engine, which would be nearly impossible of course.

This handgun thing is an abomination of all that a historic flight sim should be offering as a feature. Firing a handgun is hard. Just keeping your arm steady enough to hit a door at 5 meters is very hard. Add the constant movement of a bobbing plane, the intense buffeting of the slipstream AND the need to fly, and shooting a handgun any more accurately than getting the hemisphere right is impossible.

You might wanna get that looked at.

I just hope that they didn't program the AI to use a hand gun. I don't want to get popped in mid air by a colt fired from 500 yards .

From page 2 of this thread...

REFERENCE I still cannot find any info on the RJF Barton/Felix Brocord pistol stories, but Barton turned into a high ranking RAF officer after the war, and if you can't trust an officer...

I had a jack-ass take my rear gunner position in a DFW the other night and, as usual, he started firing the gun at nothing. Just using up ammo. I pulled the pistol, turned around, and shot him in the head. Took two or three shots, but he slumped over and never moved again.

I like my Colt...

About the only thing it's good for. I would love to see an animation of that in-game.

So in german planes you still have the colt?

No, it would be a "prize Colt", just like how the British Aldis gunsight shows up on the Albatros etc.

I'm sure they'll develop a German specific handgun. I hope for a Mauser C96.

If you give the AI a gun with an actual stock they will start hitting from 1000 yards. Who needs a Barret .50 cal?

P.S. That is a butt ugly thing.

edit - delete completely wrong info about the pistol

Hey, I've seen that gun before...

But the fact is, is that it was done in WW1.

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder, no? I agree the C96 looks ungainly with the stock attached, and I'm sure it would increase the AI accuracy with it, but ultimately/arguably it would probably be the most accurate appropriate pistol to model for German airmen to carry. And besides, it was cool enough for Han Solo.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that the British and French would likely never have carried a Colt, though I assume the devs are taking a wait-and-see attitude whether the Colt sells before expanding the handgun collection/selection. IMHO (I ain't a rivet counter...) the two standard issue sidearms below are similar enough to just develop one model for both.

Edit: naw, they're pretty different, and no sense in alienating one camp over the other, better make 'em both

British would likely have carried a Webley


The French standard issue weapon was the Pistole Revolveur Modele 1892

The British military purchased quite a few M1911s, and many of them ended up with their aviation components:

http://www.sightm1911.com/1911Production.htm

http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/1911/1916455.htm

Colt 1911 is a powerful and reliable sidearm, and I stand corrected RE: RAF
But still valid point for vast majority of RFC years (RAF inception April 1918), and ALA.

I'd take a Lee Einfeld (although the C96 would be more practical). Anyway, I'm sure this will be more useful when they model a two-seater which doesn't have a ring mounting (only a handheld machinegun fired from the shoulder - as the first two-seaters carried).

This feature will also be more valuable if a new animation system allows the player to land and get out of the plane - a whole new way to take an enemy captive or finish an online duel...

Read those links again, and this one as well:

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=359583#p359583

Shot one of those (without the stock)-interesting pistol.

There is a much better German pistol that was available during the Great War-the Luger. The German army adopted the Luger in 1908 and it was their "official" sidearm of the first war. Great pistol to shoot and it fits the hand like no other.

The C96 is loaded by using stripper clips while the Luger is loaded with a removable "clip" or magazine, just like the 45 ACP. The C96 would be ALOT harder to load in flight.