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#3486374 - 01/02/12 09:58 PM Happy New Year, Virus and Glen (Miller) Update
Baron Von Martin Offline
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Hello.

I have checked out each page, each post, for ages, no virus from this site reported here. No cash stolen from bank, no subricption to mens stimuli. And I found out what happened to Glen Miller...

S!

BVM

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#3486516 - 01/03/12 05:30 AM Re: Happy New Year, Virus and Glen (Miller) Update [Re: Baron Von Martin]
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I understood that Bomber Command got him.
Well done chaps!

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#3488996 - 01/06/12 11:30 AM Re: Happy New Year, Virus and Glen (Miller) Update [Re: Baron Von Martin]
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Hi BVM,

Missed posting this back in December...
So, I thought, I'd past this on to you.

This Date in History: December 15th.1944
The Glen Miller Mystery


Twinwood airfield. Sunday 15th December.

All flights grounded due to poor weather and visibilty. 1500 ft ceiling estimated.
Major Glenn Miller, Lieutenant Norman Don Haynes (bands manager),
Lieutenant Colonel Norman F. Baesselle arrive at Twinwood airfield.
Miller and Baesselle board waiting Noorduyn UC-64A Norseman piloted
by flight officer John R.S. Morgan.
Aircraft takes off at 1.55 pm. No radio contact received.




On 15 December 1944, the famous band leader squeezed himself aboard an American C-64 Norseman
in preparation for a routine flight to Paris. Flight Officer John Morgan, gunned the engine
and taxied the Norseman through the gloom in preparation for take-off.

From the control tower, the handful of RAF personnel heard the rasp of the engine
as the pilot advanced the throttle for take-off and within moments, the Norseman disappeared
from view into the cold, grey fog that clung to Twinwood Farm that day.

As the engine noise slowly faded into the distance, Leading Aircrafts woman Anne Carroll
noted the take-off time as 13:55 hours in the Flying Control book and carried on with her routine duties.
Unknown to her, she had just witnessed the beginning of one of the greatest avaition mysteries of all time.
The disappearance of Glen Miller.

Right up to present day, many theories about what happened on that fateful day,
most based upon the imaginative readings of creative writters rather than based on cold meticulous research
arose. Then in 2001, renowned avaition author Roy Conyers Nesbit published the results
of his own research which at last seems to provide a clear indication of what became
of the Norseman and it's passengers after leaving Twinwood Farm.

Contrary to popular belief, the weather wasn't foggy all the way to Paris and by the time the Norseman
reached the south coast of England, there was hardly a cloud in the sky, with excellent visibility
over the Channel. As the Norseman headed directly for Villacoublay at about 1,500 ft.
a force of Lancasters was being recalled from a mission to Siegen in Germany.
These Lancasters were carrying, as part of their bomb load, 4,000 lb 'Cookies',
which were powerful blast-bombs that sent out a shock wave designed to demolish buildings
and anything else that stood in the vinicity. It was forbidden for the aircraft
to land with these 'Cookies' still on board.

The Lancasters, therefore, diverted towards one of the designated bomb jettison-zones set
in the middle of the English Channel and proceeded to release their loads,
which also included thousands of small 4 lb. incendiary bombs,
which scattered in the slipstream upon release.

The Lancaster crews watch as, one by one, the 'Cookies' explode just above the surface of the sea,
sending out huge grey blast-waves from their point of impact. Suddenly, Flying Officer Ivor Pritchard
in the nose of a 149 Squadron Lancaster spotted a small light-aircraft some 1,500 ft. below them,
headed in the opposite direction. He called his sighting up on the intercom just in time
for the rear gunner to witness the aircraft plunge into the sea as the Lancaster flew overhead.



There are no other recorded losses for light aircraft in this area on that day, so there seems to be little doubt
that this indeed was the Norseman carrying Glen Miller. It's intended route would have taken it close
to the jettison area and it was undoubtedly in the area at the exact time
that the Lancaster were dumping their bombs.

Any aircraft flying at 1,500 ft. above exploding 'Cookies' and through a rain of incendaries
would stand little chance, especially one made of wood, metall and fabric, such as the Norseman.
The suddeness of this catastrophe would also explain why no distress call was received.

With Roy Nesbit's personal experience as a wartime navigator, flying over these same areas,
there seems to be little doubt that this is what happened to Glen Miller's American C-64 Norseman.

The full story of the Glen Miller Mystery can be read in Roy's book 'Missing-Believed Killed'.


Cheers mate pilot
David


Edited by Skylark (01/06/12 11:32 AM)
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#3489703 - 01/07/12 03:02 PM Re: Happy New Year, Virus and Glen (Miller) Update [Re: Baron Von Martin]
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Hi Skylark,

I saw a TV documentary on this a few years ago and I have to admit the evidence makes sense. Whilst not entirely conclusive, I think that this is probably what happened to the "Glenn Miller" flight.

Last time we "spoke" you were having computer problems but I guess they are now fixed? Have you spoken to Ray Otton about the Typoon lately as I gather he needed your input before doing the "Car Door" mod which Iron Mike and I are interested in?

Happy New Year etc.

Pete
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