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#3619376 - 08/03/12 08:19 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
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No. Google Earth displays the graph with the wrong 'scale' values displayed - nowt to do with SAMSIM - look at the point value of speed, and compare to the range of values on the graph's scale - usually a large discrepancy. Bug posted ages ago on their bug tracker, no reply, comment or action since that I am aware of.


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#3619377 - 08/03/12 08:20 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Back to Tu-154 yet :-)

I have been given two interesting links by user halmiso (he also sends greeting to Hpasp :-)) at forum.fortifikace.net (czech army forum).

The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

The second one:
zn.ua/POLITICS/tu-154__sekretnaya_hronika_pozora-36645.html

To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).


"The Launch Photo"? or "A launch photo"?

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#3619401 - 08/03/12 09:10 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lieste]
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
[/quote] "The Launch Photo"? or "A launch photo"?

The launch photo.
But I was mislead by Hpasp's expression - they even have a launch photo. But it was only a NRZ (IFF) photo. Also clarified by Hpasp


Edited by Alien_MasterMynd (08/03/12 09:10 AM)

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#3619455 - 08/03/12 10:23 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Back to Tu-154 yet :-)

I have been given two interesting links by user halmiso (he also sends greeting to Hpasp :-)) at forum.fortifikace.net (czech army forum).

The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

The second one:
zn.ua/POLITICS/tu-154__sekretnaya_hronika_pozora-36645.html

To me it is still unclear, because I have seen the launch photo - they fired at a close target, so missile should fly with program I (near target).


Hi,
in the documents about the case, there were some statement about imposibility of S-200 to hit at all (angle of approach, radiofuse and so on - this ukrainian kills me...
I don't get what in the first link should see about?

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#3619513 - 08/03/12 11:42 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
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Originally Posted By: piston79
[quote=Alien_MasterMynd]
The first one:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/73/115686-50.html
firs on 15.8.2001 at 1:50

I don't get what in the first link should see about?


User firs at given date and time :-) s-200 theory is also suspicious to me. But we obviously have too little information :-(

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#3619543 - 08/03/12 12:23 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The KRUG low altitude bug is found, the correction will be in the next version.
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What was this bug? Could you explain if you don't mind?


There is a so called "weight maneuvering limitation" for each missile type.
While it is available for the Volhov/Dvina/Neva missiles from firing range materials, with the KRUG it was just approximated. (wrongly)
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While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
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#3619545 - 08/03/12 12:25 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lieste]
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
No. Google Earth displays the graph with the wrong 'scale' values displayed - nowt to do with SAMSIM - look at the point value of speed, and compare to the range of values on the graph's scale - usually a large discrepancy. Bug posted ages ago on their bug tracker, no reply, comment or action since that I am aware of.


Bug in the Google Earth software.

SAMSIM only sends coordinates and timestamps.

Google is calculating the speed from these...
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3619681 - 08/03/12 03:07 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!

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#3619793 - 08/03/12 06:01 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Cript]
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Originally Posted By: Cript
Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!


Hi and welcome Cript
Enjoy Your stay on SimHQ!

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#3620065 - 08/04/12 09:36 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Cript]
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Originally Posted By: Cript
Hello,

I'm new to this forum and a newly french fan of this simulator.

As there was no page on Facebook about this simulator, I've just created one, it's called "SAM Simulator".
Fell free to come in and add some news there!

Thanks!


WELCOME!
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
thumbsup

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