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#3500434 - 01/21/12 12:24 PM Re: So why all the work on single-player Il-2, when it's irrelevant? [Re: Xander Fulton]
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+1 to MacStones. I've enjoyed IL2 MP in the past. I enjoyed it immensely in fact. Since then I've switched (mostly) to Rise of Flight and DCS--all exclusively multiplayer. This week I have had a blast playing the static MiG-3 career with 4.11. Going online right now would just mean having my arse handed to me over and over. What better way to reacquire an old skill than to enjoy every minute of single player action. Enjoy both as the designers intended. Oh, and to the OP: I strongly disagree that MP has been overlooked with 4.11. MP now has networked head movement, control movement, delayed bomb effects, spawn points, replenishment and much more that I'm either failing to recall or never knew.

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#3500447 - 01/21/12 12:46 PM Re: So why all the work on single-player Il-2, when it's irrelevant? [Re: Xander Fulton]
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Originally Posted By: Xander Fulton
Originally Posted By: Neal
What you are missing is bleeding obvious from reading the thread title.
Just because you can't see the SP POV doesn't mean there isn't any.


Focus on SP means you get ONLY SP, no MP improvement.

Focus on improving MP means the SP players get the exact same thing they would have got with an SP-only focus, but you get MP, too.


Er, no, not exactly. Focus on single player would mean things like more immersive "between missions," in career mode, better career mode in general, AI ships and planes to flesh out the PTO and MTO, etc., things most online-only types don't seem to care about.

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#3500654 - 01/21/12 04:50 PM Re: So why all the work on single-player Il-2, when it's irrelevant? [Re: csThor]
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Originally Posted By: csThor
Smart-@ss question from me Xander: Why should anyone bother with MP development when 90% of the onliners do want Air Quake and nothing else? wink

Simply put I can't be arsed to go online anymore, I get enough kindergarten at work so I don't want to deal with that in my spare time, either. And besides I am interested in historical details - which mostly fall prey to "balance" online. At least the AI won't whine when it doesn't get to fly the latest über-plane. wink


Hammer hits the nail on the head!!!!!!!!!! I still fly online for some quick twitch fun, but when I'm serious about flying, I choose to fly offline. This usually meant RoF, but now w/ 4.11, I'll be switching back & forth between the two.

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#3500720 - 01/21/12 07:42 PM Re: So why all the work on single-player Il-2, when it's irrelevant? [Re: Xander Fulton]
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Originally Posted By: Xander Fulton
Originally Posted By: Neal
What you are missing is bleeding obvious from reading the thread title.
Just because you can't see the SP POV doesn't mean there isn't any.


Did you read the post that followed?
Because - yes, yes it does.
Focus on SP means you get ONLY SP, no MP improvement.
Focus on improving MP means the SP players get the exact same thing they would have got with an SP-only focus, but you get MP, too.
So why the focus on SP only? I don't get it.
It's like you are offered ten thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars and a pile of gold and diamonds. And you are saying "Oh, I'm only interested in money, so I'll just take the ten thousand dollars". It's a position I do not understand!


That is nonsense.

Also and even more importantly ... Coops can be run with AI & live pilots .. and with the MDS feature the lines between SP & MP are even further erased. Better AI is good for the sim. Period.

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