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#3480127 - 12/23/11 02:56 PM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: SkyHigh
Once bitten, twice shy.

Lol entitlement issues ftw. Just because you pay $45 for a game doesn't mean you are entitled to endless patches with new and better features and content. Patches are for fixing bugs and that's it.

Well said! More than got my money's worth with Wings of Prey and we just had a great patch with fantastic new paint-schemes and much improved online code. We don't pay extra for support but it is still there and far from over.

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#3480351 - 12/23/11 08:18 PM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: SkyHigh
What do you propose to offer the abandoned Wings of Prey users, to whom many promises were made and few delivered?

Move to the new game instead since it look 1000x more like what everybody wanted Wings of Prey to be and then some?

Oh you mean a realistic simulator with ME, big maps, DC, no timer and actually able to takeoff/land?

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#3480387 - 12/23/11 09:38 PM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Zakzak]
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I hardly call a game an MMO if it only has 32 player slots. No, that is DOD:S, but in the air.

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#3480498 - 12/24/11 04:30 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: GloDark7]
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Originally Posted By: GloDark7
Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: SkyHigh
Once bitten, twice shy.

Lol entitlement issues ftw. Just because you pay $45 for a game doesn't mean you are entitled to endless patches with new and better features and content. Patches are for fixing bugs and that's it.

Well said! More than got my money's worth with Wings of Prey and we just had a great patch with fantastic new paint-schemes and much improved online code. We don't pay extra for support but it is still there and far from over.

Glo


I see I am being accused of being a tightwad and a miser. Well, I have bought almost every WWII flight game available in the last fifteen years, and liked most of them. Also there is an unspoken expectation that modern games seem to be released incomplete, with the expectation of improvement and ROF and COD are examples of this. WOP still needs vast improvement, and I bought the WOL add-on in the expectation that this would carry on to completion, but seems to have stalled. Maybe I am naive and gullible, but my understanding was that WOP was to be succeeded by WOPII, in which WOP-owners would be able to integrate their WOP planes and maps into the new game thus giving WOP a new lease of life, being able to utilise the mission-builder, improved AI, DM and so on. It was even hinted by the developers that a small discount on WOPII might be considered for WOPI owners. I don't see any of that coming with World of Planes, and as a strict off-liner (I'd be too embarrassed to appear on-line, not much of an ace, I'm afraid)the new game seems particularly useless for me, although I will be looking out to see if it comes with off-line content.

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#3480538 - 12/24/11 07:12 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: FozzyBear]
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Originally Posted By: FozzyBear
I hardly call a game an MMO if it only has 32 player slots. No, that is DOD:S, but in the air.

Because it is written in the 10 commandments that any MMO must have a huge 3d gameworld where millions of players can coexist in realtime at the same time. So Navy Field is not an MMO according to you? Right.

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#3480542 - 12/24/11 07:17 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: WynnTTr]
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Originally Posted By: WynnTTr
Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: SkyHigh
What do you propose to offer the abandoned Wings of Prey users, to whom many promises were made and few delivered?

Move to the new game instead since it look 1000x more like what everybody wanted Wings of Prey to be and then some?

Oh you mean a realistic simulator with ME, big maps, DC, no timer and actually able to takeoff/land?

You know, I hope it doesn't turn out playing just like IL-2 or IL-2 COD in which case they'll definitely lose this customer and lots more who actually, you know, enjoyed WoP.

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#3480605 - 12/24/11 10:22 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Zakzak]
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Thanks ZakZak, and good luck with the project! Any addition to the sim world is welcome and Gaijin did a great job on certain elements of Wings of Prey, so I look forward to this one. I was particularly impressed with how beautifully the landscape and terrain in WIngs of Prey were rendered on even my older gaming PC. The ugly bits about Wings of Prey gameplay will always continue to irk people, but hopefully they won't be relevant for World of Warplanes.

I had a look at the Red Skies over Dover video though, and without having played the alpha release, I have to say, it looks identical to Wings of Prey...same landscape, same visual effects, same aircraft types...or what am I missing?
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#3480775 - 12/24/11 05:36 PM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: WynnTTr
Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: SkyHigh
What do you propose to offer the abandoned Wings of Prey users, to whom many promises were made and few delivered?

Move to the new game instead since it look 1000x more like what everybody wanted Wings of Prey to be and then some?

Oh you mean a realistic simulator with ME, big maps, DC, no timer and actually able to takeoff/land?

You know, I hope it doesn't turn out playing just like IL-2 or IL-2 COD in which case they'll definitely lose this customer and lots more who actually, you know, enjoyed WoP.

Clod was a piece of #%&*$# when first released and still isn't running well. After almost a year since release nothing substantial has been done to fix the game other than the sound, which I'll admit was done well for the 109. But what has that got to do with my post?

So I guess if you enjoyed simplified FM, small maps, mission timers that automatically end, no ME, no takeoff/landings, sure I reckon I would have enjoyed WoP. If WoP had them they'd definitely would have gotten more customers you know. Now you're saying that WoPlanes has that and 1000x more and then some... riiight.

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#3480924 - 12/25/11 01:35 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: FozzyBear
I hardly call a game an MMO if it only has 32 player slots. No, that is DOD:S, but in the air.

Because it is written in the 10 commandments that any MMO must have a huge 3d gameworld where millions of players can coexist in realtime at the same time. So Navy Field is not an MMO according to you? Right.


WTF Is Navy Field? Sounds like some cheap [admin edit] game that only people with low end PCs play.

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#3480995 - 12/25/11 03:23 AM Re: World of Planes - Officially on SimHQ [Re: Evil Flower]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Flower
Originally Posted By: FozzyBear
I hardly call a game an MMO if it only has 32 player slots. No, that is DOD:S, but in the air.

Because it is written in the 10 commandments that any MMO must have a huge 3d gameworld where millions of players can coexist in realtime at the same time. So Navy Field is not an MMO according to you? Right.


Well MMO stands for MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online [Game]. So yeah, it kind of is written in the "rules". Not to take anything away from WOP, I am absolutely looking forward to this game. Anything that can take me back to the Fighter Ace days. pilot
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