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#3484811 - 12/31/11 04:11 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Of course, having 3GB RAM, a full 50% more than any other single-GPU card, can't help the price.


RAM is dirt cheap and overstocked, both DDR3 and GDDR5.


How 'bout 6GB? Or one clocked some 50% higher? :

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It would appear that AMD’s Radeon HD 7970’s overclocking capabilities are the real deal. A confidential company document from Sapphire has leaked to the net, that outlines 6 non-reference graphics cards to be released by Sapphire in 2012. The two graphics cards that really stand out are the 'Atomic RX' and 'Atomic WC' that both come clocked at 1335Mhz core and 5735Mhz memory. There is another card listed that looks to stand out as well codenamed “FLEX 6G”. The “FLEX 6G” packs 6144MB of video memory running at stock clock speeds of 925Mhz core 5500Mhz memory.
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#3484875 - 12/31/11 06:03 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Thanks, for that one, JAMF.

Now, I'll consider waiting for the Sapphire products because they would give me more than the few percent boost I was expecting (I have time as my CrossFire setup runs everything well). Heck, the boost could easily approach 20 percent (maybe more??).

BTW, why would I buy for a few percent? As I've posted before, I'm a fan and I give the HD5870s to family members -- so we all benefit from my excesses smile

Of course, the Sapphire price may be "eyewatering" -- just as the performance will be "mouthwatering". So, I've not made up my mind, yet smile


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#3484910 - 12/31/11 07:21 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Good rumors on the overclock potential, hoping that's true.

It would be cool if the 7950s could be flashed to 7970s like the recent situation with the reference 6950 2GB cards which could be flashed and unlocked to a quasi 6970...

I am actually going to keep an eye out to see if some stash of ref 6950/2GB reference cards ever shows up on sale for the $150 price point that the 5870 cards seem to have shown up recently, a pair of those 6950s flashed to 6970s and crossfired would make a good upgrade while I wait for the 7970/680 prices to come down into reasonable range.


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#3485759 - 01/02/12 02:53 AM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Looks like a "reference" HD7970 will go to 1.26GHz and P10259 in 3DMark 11 (3DMark Graphics Score 9785). This beats my two CrossFired HD5870s quite nicely. Outstanding Physics score too (beats GTX580 which has architecture originally designed for calculations and adapted to graphics). So, now the "stock" single HD7970 is looking good to "somewhat justifiably" replace a CrossFire setup (at least an AMD fan needs less of an excuse smile ).

The OC is not dirt simple. They say it needs special software, firmware, and voltage increase. I assume the above Sapphire product will incorporate the same (transparently to the customer).

HD7970 Hits 1.26GHz


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#3485868 - 01/02/12 11:32 AM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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I see a "water block" has been developed for the HD7970. Since I use water cooling for the CPU, I might consider it to get the highest OC on the GPU. I am guessing the high price will NOT be "cost effective" for the FPS increase. But, it could be a fun experiment.

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#3486638 - 01/03/12 04:28 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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It's not clear whether VR-Zone reached the max core speed allowed with the unreleased BIOS. On the one hand 1267 MHz seems like an odd number for the BIOS limit to end on, suggesting that they didn't; on the other hand, they only bumped the voltage by 0.10 to 1.25v [EDIT: on reflection, 0.10 bump is not insignificant...]. If 1267 was not the limit, and the card wasn't overheating it begs the question as to why VR-Zone didn't push the voltage a little more (perhaps the 3rd party software didn't have higher voltage options) [EDIT: it's very possible the card couldn't take more thant the 0.10 bump.

With the fan going 100% they got temps of 66 celsius which indicates that temps were not the limiting factor (maybe the noise level was the limiting factor wink ).

Given the upside potential for this card I suspect we are going to see a broader than usual range of factory OC cards and enthusiast mods for the 7970 in the coming months... especially since it looks like nVidia's Kepler might be delayed.

For myself, I still don't see the benefit to upgrading my 6970 given that I'm able to play everything pretty much maxed out... then again, I don't play Metro 2033 or other such games.

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looks very modernishy-phoney-windows eighty-tabletty like

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#3486743 - 01/03/12 06:53 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Allen]  
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Originally Posted By: Allen
I see a "water block" has been developed for the HD7970.


I'd place a small wager that of the list of Sapphire cards I linked to, the "Atomic WC" comes equipped with a water block. smile

#3488054 - 01/05/12 04:27 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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#3488968 - 01/06/12 06:50 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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A Sapphire HD7970 showed up on the AMAZON site in Germany -- it was there when I looked smile

Supposedly, HD7970 should not be on the market, yet. But, rumor is, that they may hit the market at many sites tomorrow (January 7) -- ahead of the "official" January 9 publicity date. HD7950 release is now moved to the first week in February.


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#3488981 - 01/06/12 06:58 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Allen]  
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Originally Posted By: Allen
A Sapphire HD7970 showed up on the AMAZON site in Germany -- it was there when I looked smile

Supposedly, HD7970 should not be on the market, yet. But, rumor is, that they may hit the market at many sites tomorrow (January 7) -- ahead of the "official" January 9 publicity date. HD7950 release is now moved to the first week in February.


Its not there now....


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#3488991 - 01/06/12 07:24 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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I just looked again. It was there and I put one in my cart -- and began the check out process. Did not go through with the purchase, of course smile

Amazon HD7970


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#3489019 - 01/06/12 08:03 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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it says: Currently out of stock.

520 EUR? thats like $670 USD isnt it?


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#3489044 - 01/06/12 08:57 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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I'll be interested to see if they actually do hit the USA market tomorrow (January 7) -- at Newegg or Amazon.


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#3489136 - 01/06/12 11:45 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
it says: Currently out of stock.

520 EUR? thats like $670 USD isnt it?


Yes, but with the usual market and tax differences, you'd see a price of 600-625$, if not lower.

I'll be checking the shops all weekend, that's for sure. I already have shop searches on "speed dial" in Firefox at work.

#3489421 - 01/07/12 12:18 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Found one priced 467€, Gigabyte GV-R797D5-3GD-B. Equates to $594US.

Sapphire 21197-00-40g @ ProVantage

A picture that was found at Overclockers.co.uk :



They also have their own water cooled card up for preorder

Donanim Haber (Hardware News) reports the SRP has been lowered by AMD by some 10%

Finding prices is easier with product codes / SKU (Stock Keeping Units):
ASUS HD7970-3GD5 90-C3CHJ0-U0UAY0YZ (Reference design) (link)
ASUS HD7970-DC2-3GD5 90-C1CRM0-U0UAY0BZ (DirectCU II) (link)
ASUS HD7970-DC2T-3GD5 90-C1CRM1-U0UAY0BZ (DirectCU II, 1GHz) (link)

Club3D CGAX-7977 (Reference design) (link)
Gigabyte GV-R797D5-3GD-B (Reference design) (link)
GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD (3 fan cooler) (Gigabyte newsroom)
HIS H797F3G2M (Reference design) (link)
MSI R7970-2PMD3GD5 (Reference design) (link)
Powercolor AX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG 3GBD5-M2DHG (Reference design) (link)
Sapphire 21197-00-40g (Reference design) (link)
VTX VX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG (Reference design) ](link)

XFX (link)
FX-797A-TNFC (Reference design)
FX-797A-TDFC (non-ref double fan cooler)
FX-797A-TNBC (Reference design with 1GHz)
FX-797A-TDBC (non-ref double fan cooler with 1GHz)

(list will be amended over time)

[Edit 2] XFX added. Thx Allen. thumbsup
[Edit 3] More XFX models added, MSI, HIS, Club3D, Powercolor and VTX links
[Edit 4] Gigabyte links and 3-fan SKU added
[Edit 5] ASUS DirectCU version details added, SKU coloured

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#3489438 - 01/07/12 01:22 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Amazon USA has them this morning (went from 7 left to 6 left as I wrote this). Actually from Beach Audio via Amazon.

XFX HD 7970 Core Edition 3GB $586 delivered.

HD 7970 $586

In looking at GTX580 prices, I see that the price is actually about right (unfortunately). Its more than I'm willing to pay right now for the small improvement over my CrossFire system.

We'll see what Monday brings.


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#3489461 - 01/07/12 02:11 PM Re: AMD RADEON HD7970 is a monster! [Re: Immermann]  
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Wow!

Beach Audio vis Amazon just bumped the price on the last 6 cards from $586 to $627 delivered (they've just adjusted the number back to 7 remaining).

I expected something like that -- but not with the first batch. These things can get expensive. I won't be playing on that field.

Come on Nvidia, get your act together. We need competition smile


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The prices now range $634 to $684 delivered (for a $550 card) -- and, they're selling them jawdrop


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$611 + Shipping now.

Guess i go with a 6950/70 until prices come down.?


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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
$611 + Shipping now.

Guess i go with a 6950/70 until prices come down.?


My 6950's been keeping me happy. The 2GB model does a nice job filling screen real-estate too. Plus I'm told69 cards scale pretty well, so xFire is a more viable option now.


$ for $, I'd stick with the 6950.


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