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#3478054 - 12/20/11 07:32 PM Trying to get into Tank Simming
ChwyNiblet Offline
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I've been an avid flight simmer for awhile and I want to try to get into tank simming now. I was wondering if anyone could give me some recommendation on what I should try. I don't enjoy any turn based planning like I know Steel Armor has.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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#3478063 - 12/20/11 07:59 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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Modern and best.... Steel Beasts Pro PE

WW2... if you can still get them somwhere... Steel Fury and/or WW2 Tank Battles

Action... World of Tanks

Unfortunately tank sims, or even games are rare... ArmA2 can give you tank "action" also.

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#3478065 - 12/20/11 08:02 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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I'm willing to play anything that's good to be honest. Steel Beasts looks promising if it wasn't for $125! Haha I'll look for Steel Fury.
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#3478119 - 12/20/11 10:06 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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Track down a copy of Steel Best Gold (http://www.amazon.com/Steel-Beasts-Gold-Pc/dp/B000065SQG), or the old venerable M1 Tank Platoon II. Steel Beast is more realistic, but M1TPII is not far behind. Good ebaying will get you a copy for under $20 of either of them, and you can get them from Amazon direct if you want to avoid the hassle. An in box copy of M1TPII has a great spiral bound manual, and Steel Beast has a great series of manuals and info docs included in the install.

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#3478315 - 12/21/11 07:11 AM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
Txema Offline
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If you want a World War II tank sim, Steel Fury is great !!

It is realistic and you get a lot of action. It has NO turn based planning.

You can buy it at gamersgate, for example:

http://www.gamersgate.com/

Moreover, a lot of new tanks and missions have been added in several mods. You can get them here:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/238/1/Graviteam_Sims.html

and here:

http://graviteam.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0

I really like that tank sim.


Txema

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#3478639 - 12/21/11 02:37 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: Txema]
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Hey there,

For WWII, Red Orchestra: Ostfront has a detailed and fun tank component to it and it's on sale now for $5! http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/ . The Mare Nostrum and Darkest Hour mods (available for free once you have the basic game) add much to the tanking experience of the basic game depending on whether you want early war tanks or more detailed late war tanking.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6


Edited by fafnir_6 (12/21/11 02:38 PM)

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#3478853 - 12/21/11 08:56 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
Eugene Offline
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I would (strongly) add on to Magnum and kramer's endorsement of Steel Beasts Pro. For now, it is $100. Or you could think of it as just a little more than $99.99 Smile2 You mentioned that you are an avid flight simmer. SBP is essentially the armor sim world's Falcon 4. Simply the finest ever made. And it, like BMS and Free Falcon in the F4 world, keeps getting new features and updates but unlike Falcon or Jane's or most (all?) of the classic sims, it is the developer that keeps improving SBP.

The cost - Skyrim costs about $60. Lots of new, premium games and sims cost around $50. The current price for SBP is equivalent roughly to two A level new game releases, maybe three if you are lucky or find a sale. Before you make up your mind and reject this superb sim after seeing the price the first time, consider that it will live on your hard drive more or less forever. It isn't a play once, twice, maybe play for a month or two and then let it fade away. Like the best flight sims, you will find its huge and growing stock of missions, its many different fully player capable armor fighting vehicles (M-1 Leopards, Challenger, M-72, and many others) engaging you more and more as time goes by. Multiplayer is a blast - solid as a rock. After a year or two, many other games will have come and gone on your drive, and only the truly great ones keep you engaged. How much value and TSS (time spent simming!!) do you really get from the dollars spent?

From that perspective, which ones are actually expensive? Which ones have the best cost/benefit ratio?

PS If you do buy SBP and end up not wanting it after a while, there is a pretty avid market in re-selling it at a high percentage of the original price - unlike used games.
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#3479004 - 12/22/11 02:34 AM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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Armored is no different from fly guy. Find the classics cheap and work your way up. What is true in flight is also true in ground sims. biggrin The difference is that line of sight is blocked in vertical vs energy payment for vertical. XY and guns are the same. Think about it wink
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#3479212 - 12/22/11 12:15 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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Registered: 09/26/06
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Loc: Wisconsin
If you want to go head to head with dozens of other tankers from a first person perspective you should take a look at Battleground Europe. It is a combined arms simulation so you will more often be killed by infantry or a 500lb bomb but that's the way it really was.

It is a true first person simulation. There is no jumping out and going third person like World of Tanks. This to me makes it a heart pounding, sweat soaking experience and not bumper cars with guns like WOT is. This is a real tankers experience with real physics. In WOT they run around shooting at each other at point blank range. To me it's just silly. In Battleground Europe you normally engage at 500 meters or farther if you're lucky. Don't get me wrong you can very easily surprise or be surprised in the cities and towns and get into a point blank who shoots first situation but it does not happen that often.

The best way is to team up with two other guys. You can have one player drive and the other be commander and gunner. The third should be a infantry type to keep sappers off you and to scout. Your tank makes lots of noise and there are plenty of enemy tank killers who just love to run after the sound of your engine to end you mission. Your infantry scout can both warn you of their locations as well as shoot the sapper/bazooka/rifle grenadier before he gets you. The tank crew can take care of the other tanks but without infantry support you will not last long.


Tanks include Tigers, PZIV, Stugs, PZIII, 232, PZII, Stuarts, Shermans, Wolverines, Matildas, Crusaders, Churchills, Char, Somua, Renault and a dozen others I can't remember at this time. The game rotates from 1940 - 1944 or so with the equipment becoming available as the current campaign progresses so everyone starts out with the early machines and everyone graduates to the heavy hitters. There is no paying extra for bigger tanks etc. Another plus for this game in MHO.

There is a rumor that they are adding possible kind of arena area where tankers can go at it unmolested by planes and sappers. The disadvantage to me is that it will allow 3rd person views and that kills it for me. But to each his own.


Edited by Hairog (12/22/11 12:16 PM)
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#3480253 - 12/23/11 05:56 PM Re: Trying to get into Tank Simming [Re: ChwyNiblet]
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it's not like a college entrance exam. if you want to play something, go ahead and try it. if you can't figure it out on intuition alone, read the manuals and study the control in the options menu.

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