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#3477154 - 12/19/11 02:23 PM Steam Sale!! What to get?
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I'm looking for a good freight-train pack, hopefully big map. Any recommendations?

Steam sale on with most DLCs at 50% off.
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#3477212 - 12/19/11 03:34 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Last year Railworks DLC turned up on the daily deals at 75% off so I'm holding out a bit for that this year.
I've got 25 set aside ready to complete my UK Diesel and Electric collection plus some carriages and wagons.

- Ice, what have you got already ?
I would recommend WCML North if your PC's up to it, its a bit of a heavy hitter.
Plenty of freight and passenger work and its BIG
The Class 86 that comes with it is a tricky beast to drive at first but very satisfying once you get the hang of it.

Isle of Whites fun and is usually needed for a lot of freeware routes out there.
Small and just passenger stuff really but still fun.
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#3477233 - 12/19/11 04:03 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I just got the deluxe edition, the one with the horseshoe curve IIRC. I'm not really a passenger-hauler type, my fond memories of my trains was transporting cattle/goods/freight across long imaginary distances.

I will be holding off getting stuff until the last day, but at least I got my "to get list" identified... wink

Pity they still don't have TIR sorted with this game.
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#3480134 - 12/23/11 03:07 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Doncaster Works is supposed to be good, with a shunter and rolling stock and 11 scenarios including 2 Career System scenarios.
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#3480138 - 12/23/11 03:13 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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The word from RS.com is that 50% off is it for the DLC this year, oh well.

The main game is 90% off for today only so that's a good deal for anyone who's on the fence about getting this or not.

I pulled the trigger on my DLC purchase and got the 4cig, class 455, class 150, class 50 and class 33, 30 the lot. A fiver more than I originally intended to spend and not as many goodies as I hoped to get but hey its christmas.

So what you getting then -Ice ?
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#3480144 - 12/23/11 03:19 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I agree Doncaster Works is pretty good, I got that last year.
Very detailed and plenty to do as long as its within the confines of the works, although there is some mainline running past it there's no way to get out of the works onto it so ultimately a bit limited.
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#3480385 - 12/23/11 09:30 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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It should also be pointed out for anyone new to Railworks or those who are thinking of buying it, that the entire Railworks Catalogue on Steam is available at a massive 80% discount (if bought as one prchase). I was fairly new to the franchise and so I chose this option.
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#3480447 - 12/24/11 01:01 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I got the deluxe as well today... crashed my first train to I'm so proud. Only got it up to 15mph tho. WinkNGrin
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#3480525 - 12/24/11 06:45 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I just found WCML... it is an all-electric track? I dunno what it is about electic tracks I just don't really like.

Still looking for a good freight add-on if anyone has any recommendations.
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#3480545 - 12/24/11 07:35 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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If you like US stuff there's "Rascal & Cottonwood", Colton & Northern" & "Fort Kent to Eagle Lake".
There also used to be "Ohio Steel (Dover division)" but that seems to have disappeared off of Steam for some reason.
There all almost exclusively freight and come with loads of scenarios.
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#3481920 - 12/27/11 06:58 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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#3482386 - 12/27/11 08:24 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I recently bought Trains Simulator 2012 for 4 bucks Wo Hoo Needed and upgrade for my Nephew.. he likes it but not sure he appreicates the updated graphics yet.. Well it does look a site better then the 2009 trainz I had..
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#3482403 - 12/27/11 08:52 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I bought it the other day when it was next to nothing.... my mates found out after noticing it on my Steam account and had a giggle at my expense. I've just 'played' it for the first time and am hugely impressed. Have just bought the Class 50 and Class 37 and can see the temptation for all sorts of goodies lol

Can anyone recommend some scenery/routes that include the Northwest line.....Crewe to Carlisle sort of area (freeware or payware) I have no idea at the moment how the freeware/payware DLC works though after seeing the launch screen for the game and whether it is a manual task to get it up and running or whether they generally use auto-installers? I've found the WCML North on Steam but ideally want something that goes through Lancashire and the Lakes as I used to sit at Oxenholme station just outside Kendal with my anorak and packed lunch watching the trains go by thats where I was brought up. (Any help appreciated)
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#3482571 - 12/28/11 04:18 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Not really tied to any country or track or railroad company... but I'm more attracted to diesels and a few odd steam trains simply because I've played with something that looks like them when I was young.

I've got loads more to do on the default game anyway so I might just hold out for now. I'm still halfway through the Horseshoe expansion so I got 90% more of the game to go. I will take a look at the recommended freight-hauling expansions though and if I have any cash left over (gasp!!), I may get them.
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#3482613 - 12/28/11 06:41 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Ice, with regards to the Warthog controller, isn't there something we could magic up with the T.A.R.G.E.T software?
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#3482814 - 12/28/11 01:30 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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There is supposed to be a 3rd-party mod that allows this to happen but IIRC it was made for TS2 and is a hit-and-miss for TS3. I've had it working for me for a maximum of 1 minute. Usually it just works for 20-30 seconds then it doesn't recognize any more inputs from my controller.

I'm not too sure about TARGET though.
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#3482918 - 12/28/11 04:00 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I use the earlier version of the controller software myself, version 0.5 I think, its a lot more basic but I just prefer it.
I haven't had any problem using the newer one with TS2012 though when I do use it.
I do use a Saitek throttle quad though so I cant say how it would perform with a warthog.
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#3483309 - 12/29/11 04:47 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Okay, deadline for this is coming up fast and the past few days I've bought nothing from Steam so I may end up getting a few DLCs then. I need your help to narrow it down...

At the moment, I'm looking at these three DLCs
RailWorks Canadian National Add-on - 3 scenarios and I assume a new "area" to run in.
RailWorks BNSF Dash 9 Pack - A new engine, some scenarios, but seems to be set in the same area as the first one. 5.99 seems a bit steep though.
SD40-2 Santa Fe Edition RailWorks Add-on - new livery (skin), new "area", some scenarios.

I've found the Colton & Northern, but at 7.49, is it better than the 1.50 offerings I'm eyeing above? Rascal & Cottonwood seems to be based on a fictional setting so I'll pass on this one simply because I can; I'd rather get real-life tracks and such with my limited budget. The Fort Kent to Eagle Lake looks good with lots of things to do, but again, 5.99. I have no idea what I'm getting with the 3 picks above, I think I'm just getting them because of the engine they are using, so any guidance appreciated.


Also, I seem to see a lot of "20 miles of track included"... how long does it take for a train to cross that 20 miles assuming decent track speed and no delays/interruptions? Does anyone know what's the biggest/longest stretch of track available?
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#3483312 - 12/29/11 05:03 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I got BN SD40 Pack
CN WideNose pack
SPS Northerns pack
Tea Wagons
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#3483517 - 12/29/11 12:42 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Canadian National Add-on is 2 repaints of default locos and 3 Career System Scenarios + 1 free roam. No new track.
RailWorks BNSF Dash 9 Pack is 1 new loco with 6 repaints and 1 Career System Scenario, 4 standard Scenarios + 1 free roam. No new track.
SD40-2 Santa Fe Edition RailWorks Add-on is 2 repaints of a default loco and 3 standard Scenarios + 1 free roam. No new track.

so no new track with any of those, all Scenarios are run on the 2 original default US tracks.

If budget is a concern I would recommend Fort Kent to Eagle Lake as the best bang for your bucks out of the others.
I don't think the track has been updated to TS2012 standard yet so no night lighting, it uses a repaint of a default loco so you will get headlights and rain on the windscreen though.
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#3483631 - 12/29/11 03:04 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Hmmm... so that "area" is already on the default install? Meh. I'm not too keen on the repaints (like I said, I'm not tied to a particular railway or anything), and the scenarios... don't seem to justify the price for me at the moment.

Is the Fort Kent a new track? How about the WCML? Any freight hauling on WCML?
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#3483694 - 12/29/11 04:15 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Fort Kents a new track hence to higher price and does seem to have loads to do. I don't have it myself yet but it looks pretty good from what I've seen. I have the Ohio Steel one I mentioned earlier that's gone AWOL from Steam and that's from the same people and is very nice.

I prefer the UK stuff personally Partly become its what I see every day I suppose. Funny thing really, 2 years ago I had no real interest in trains until I got Railworks on a whim because it was on sale and recently I'v notice them a lot more and can even recognise a few of the different classes when I see them go by.

I really like WCML, its a very detailed route and does have freight but does also include passenger runs too. The class 86 that comes with it is a real challenge to drive at first and you really need to read the manual to get your head round it or you just end up grinding to a halt for no apparent reason and wondering why it wont go again.
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#3483796 - 12/29/11 07:01 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Here's a video of the WCML update that was very recently released.


I couldent find anything very good of Fort Kent.
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#3483804 - 12/29/11 07:17 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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I've just bought WCML.....do you know of any package that covers WCML but slightly south of Carlisle?

I've also bought:

Lighting Enhancement Pack and the Station Lighting Enhancement Pack (UK Default) from Armstrong Powerhouse.

Do you know if these are any good?....I thought that for a few quid its worth checking out.
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#3483815 - 12/29/11 07:37 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: Paradaz]
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Originally Posted By: Paradaz
I've just bought WCML.....do you know of any package that covers WCML but slightly south of Carlisle?

I've also bought:

Lighting Enhancement Pack and the Station Lighting Enhancement Pack (UK Default) from Armstrong Powerhouse.

Do you know if these are any good?....I thought that for a few quid its worth checking out.


I don't know of any other WCML routes, there's definitely not anything on Steam.
If you like the WCML you might want to consider the Class 86 and Class 325 packs too as they kind of go hand in hand with WCML
http://store.steampowered.com/app/24097/?snr=1_5_9__405
http://store.steampowered.com/app/65241/?snr=1_5_9__405
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#3484055 - 12/30/11 03:37 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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Thanks for all your help Mark. I just noticed Shogun 2 on sale on Steam... dammit! Gotta approach the Finance Manager on this one, as the DLCs are approaching 20 as well. Anyway, at least I got my "wishlist" set now...
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#3484282 - 12/30/11 11:45 AM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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So this game don't have European trains like from France to Spain?
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#3485165 - 12/31/11 10:26 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: - Ice]
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#3485523 - 01/01/12 02:31 PM Re: Steam Sale!! What to get? [Re: Navigator]
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So this game don't have European trains like from France to Spain?


Not that I'v seen other than the default German stock.
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