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#3479421 - 12/22/11 01:56 PM Re: Kim Jong Il buys it [Re: Kontakt5]
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I don't know about that. It may be a cultural thing as well. I've seen media clips of Chinese, Japanese and North Koreans when some disaster happens, it can run the gamut of people passing out to a procession of people like that. Can't really be sure
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#3479434 - 12/22/11 02:18 PM Re: Kim Jong Il buys it [Re: Kontakt5]
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Although it's impossible to know for sure what every North Korean really thinks or whether this is all for show, there is some evidence that some of this can be taken at face value. I say this because I've seen some interviews of ex-North Korean prison guards talking about doing savage things and enforcing unimaginable conditions on political prisoners- in many cases, people not charged with any crime other than being related to someone who has been charged. These guards after later leaving North Korea said candidly in interviews they had no problems handing out the most severe punishments- even to children, since they were related to traitors. Didn't bother their conscience to torture and execute anyone. They at least believed in all of this, maybe the rest is a mix of belief and compliance out of fear, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that there are true believers.
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#3479523 - 12/22/11 04:49 PM Re: Kim Jong Il buys it [Re: semmern]
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Originally Posted By: semmern
He won't be looking at things any more.

The "crying mass" of people is just sad.. Shots of people on the streets of Pyongyang running around crying, unable to speak. It's either that or be shot..

It's genuine. These peope have been brainwashed for every second of their lives. We still underestimate the power of programming in authoritarian societies.

BTW, Kim Jong Un looks like a Korean Eric Cartman.
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#3479527 - 12/22/11 04:57 PM Re: Kim Jong Il buys it [Re: Para_Bellum]
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Originally Posted By: SimHQ Tom Cofield

Remember the initial problems West Germany had economically when the two countries reunified? Now multiply it by 20.


And we still have quite a few problems even 20+ years after reunification. Poverty and unemployment for example are still vastly bigger in East Germany than in the West.

Few people outside Germany seem to understand the incredible challenge posed by the reunification process.



I had a friend there who traveled into East Germany not too long after the wall fell. He said that it was like taking a time machine back to 1945.
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