Commonrange, indicated air speed or true airspeed - and at what altitude and with what engine settings?

My two cents:

- The game is better if you have a good machine

- The selection of aircraft and theatres is considerably less than we're used to from Il-2 1946's decade of development. However, it is several times more diverse than any previous Battle of Britain simulator

- The sense of speed and altitude is much better, however it is harder to see ground targets.

- Campaigns and single missions were *always* weak spots of Maddox's products. A 3rd party dynamic campaign is in development (it may even be in closed beta). Of course, it will take time to develop

- The AI expends most of its ammo and sometimes flees as Para_Bellum mentioned - these are both historically accurate "features". However, do not expect the Ace AI to be as tough as in Il-2 1946 (for now at least).

Hi Avimimus. I know about indicated airspeed and true airspeed and I have a table to convert.

I was assuming the closer to sea level you fly the closer indicated speed is to true. However,

most of my testing is between deck level and 2000 feet. I usually open the rad half way, and open the oil cooler

in the BF-109e. I set prop pitch for max rpm, and fuel mixture full rich as best i can tell. I really cant do much better than

260 mph at 2000 feet. I have experimented with different settings also. The Spit Mk1a and Bf-109e3 are the planes i am testing.

I realized these aircraft reached their max potential airspeed between about 16 to 18,000 feet but surely they must have been able

to do well over 300 mph at 2000 feet. If I am doing something wrong I am all ears (eyes) and welcome anyone elses test results and

CEM settings.

Okay, thanks for the write up. It is always the first thing to check. I remember some arguments in the old days where people were not converting between metric and imperial...

You've gotten me interested!

Sea Level speeds:
Spit I: 280-315 mph
Bf-109 E-3: 280-300pmh

The charts suggest that these speeds should climb to around 295-320 mph at 2,000 feet.

From:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

Gentle turns, a full fuel load or imperfect engine management might shave off some speed (although 30mph seems like a bit much). Have you tried it at 60% fuel load?

It's nowhere near to mature. Lacking comms, not much of a single player campaign to speak of. Memory leak still crashes the game after a few hours. Sounds are hit and miss, hardly hear gunfire in the cockpit but I can hear enemies coming from behind. The doppler effect on the different plane engines has improved with the last update.

If you have a good machine it's playable as long as you're not to critical for above issues. Treat it as a paid beta and keep your fingers crossed it get's finnished to the old Il2 standards. Going back to Il2 is a bit of a bummer because Il2 Clod looks so much better and the detail is stunning. I love to just hop in and fly around for a while doing circuits or buzzing through hangars.

What this sim also needs is an Il2 style quick mission builder. Not that big of a deal right now but when the other theaters start arriving over time mananging all the different planes and maps becomes important. It's what kept me with il2 for 10 years. Quickly setting up a mission, picking nationalities and custom skins is not as intuitive as it could be. If you allready own the game and have a good system check it out. If one has an older setup I would wait for the feedback from the latest patch they're working on before I spend any money. Could be that the Battle for Moscow becomes the patch we're all waiting for.

BoM is a new game isn't it? As far as I'm aware it's not a patch at all..

BoM is a new game but from reading on the Banana forum some of the things that were planned for CloD will have to wait untill BoM comes out. I hope you're right. After the patch delay stories/rumours I'm playing the seeing is believing game. Happy with the improvements they've made so far and I have DCS-10 and RoF to keep my mind otherwise occupied with simming.

The Cliffs of Dover content will be merged in (assuming you purchase both). So we'll get the BoB theatre + all of the engine improvements (and hopefully keep them from going out of business). So, it can be thought of as being like Pacific Fighters (or Il-2:FB).

In addition we can expect the reworked graphics engine as part of another patch (at least if Oleg was behind it - don't know if things have changed).

The big concern in my mind is whether we'll ever get the Cierva, the Lysanders and the Blenheim Mk.IVF... (left out of the original BoB release).

I'm out of the loop. Is it confirmed that CoD and BfM will be mergeable? I've read an update from Luthier that most of features were postponed to the sequel, but there was nothing about merging both titles. Where this info came from?

My big concern is that I will be paying twice for the same content that didn't work the first time..
and that's just to stop them going out of business?.. you can't tell me that is a sound business plan, guaranteed to keep paying customers happy?

Are you sure about this? The developer's representative stated the new content was a sequel, not an expansion. By definition indicates a seperate game, like CoD is the sequel to IL-2, where 1946 was an expansion.