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#3475437 - 12/16/11 11:53 AM The "golden age" of sci-fi literature
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When talking about the "golden age" of sci-fi literature from the 20th century, is there anyone you would include besides Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert, Robert Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke? I'm just wondering if I'm missing anyone else who was huge during that era.
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#3475481 - 12/16/11 01:04 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Poul Anderson, Hal Clement, Eric Frank Russell, CM Kornbluth, Frederic Pohl, William Tenn.....many many more.
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#3475486 - 12/16/11 01:13 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Mad Max]
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Originally Posted By: Mad Max
Poul Anderson, Hal Clement, Eric Frank Russell, CM Kornbluth, Frederic Pohl, William Tenn.....many many more.


I see I need to broaden my horizons since I've not heard of any of those authors. Thanks for the list!
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#3475492 - 12/16/11 01:24 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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How about Phillip Dick? I bet most people would say they've seen or heard of "Blade Runner", "Minority Report", "Total Recall" or "The Adjustment Bureau" but very few would know they were all based on stories by Phillip Dick.
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#3475503 - 12/16/11 01:47 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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#3475523 - 12/16/11 02:31 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Aww you left out E.E. Doc Smith and his Lensman series, The Family D'Alembert series, Skylark series, Lord Tedric series, and his other stories were classics and influenced many writers.
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#3475590 - 12/16/11 04:28 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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#3475651 - 12/16/11 07:05 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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My dad gave me all of his old sci-fi that he read growing up. I have a picture here of some of the books in one of the boxes...

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#3475719 - 12/16/11 10:58 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Stanislaw Lem. He was Douglas Adams before Douglas Adams was funny OR cool.
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#3475784 - 12/17/11 04:59 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Raw Kryptonite]
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Don't forget William Gibson the father of cyberpunk.


Gibson is long after what is generally defined as the "golden age" (1930-50s).

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#3475844 - 12/17/11 07:44 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Panzer, Mad Dog brings up an interesting point. Is that era (30s-50s) what you were talking about? Usually these kinds of threads tend to eventually swing well beyond any limits set by the first post, but I'd like to know anyway.
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#3475846 - 12/17/11 07:49 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Wikipedia is always an interesting read (with a grain of salt):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Science_Fiction

Heh heh, their handy list of prominent and influential authors includes L. Ron Hubbard. I forgot that he wrote science fiction as well as books like Battlefield Earth.
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#3475946 - 12/17/11 10:36 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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James Blish's Cities in flight series was very good, I had forgeten about them, I wonder how Mayor Amalfi is doing smile

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Does Perry Rhodan count? it came in 1961


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#3476075 - 12/17/11 03:21 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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I classify "golden age" by what I've read and when it was written. Nothing golden to me about a book I've never read or heard of from 1930-50. wink
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#3476168 - 12/17/11 06:38 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: letterboy1]
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Originally Posted By: letterboy1
Panzer, Mad Dog brings up an interesting point. Is that era (30s-50s) what you were talking about? Usually these kinds of threads tend to eventually swing well beyond any limits set by the first post, but I'd like to know anyway.



I was thinking of a much broader definition of "golden era". Basically the entire 20th century.
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#3476248 - 12/17/11 11:25 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, Greg Bear, David Brin, and Gregory Benford.

ETA Forgot Alan Dean Foster.


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#3476939 - 12/19/11 04:50 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: letterboy1]
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Originally Posted By: letterboy1
Wikipedia is always an interesting read (with a grain of salt):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Science_Fiction

Heh heh, their handy list of prominent and influential authors includes L. Ron Hubbard. I forgot that he wrote science fiction as well as books like Battlefield Earth.



So, if BE isn't SF, what is it? Future history?? biggrin



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#3476966 - 12/19/11 05:36 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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With this broader timeframe, I would like to add Iain Banks.
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#3476979 - 12/19/11 05:47 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Jedi Master]
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master

So, if BE isn't SF, what is it? Future history?? biggrin



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#3477220 - 12/19/11 12:46 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Is this book SF?

Page 43.



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#3477277 - 12/19/11 01:56 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Jedi Master]
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So, if BE isn't SF, what is it? Future history?? biggrin


The revered bible of a sect, of course.

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#3477300 - 12/19/11 02:30 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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That's not Battlefield Earth, that's the previously mentioned Dianetics.

BE was SF and was (poorly) turned into an SF film.




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#3477398 - 12/19/11 05:26 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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I can't believe anyone didn't mention Harlan Ellison........JEEZ!!

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He was the Edgar Allen Poe of science fiction back then. Dark with a sick sense of humor.


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#3477468 - 12/19/11 08:54 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Harlan Ellison provided a lot of creative input to Babylon 5 and he even played a Psy Cop in one episode.
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#3477559 - 12/20/11 04:55 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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He also wrote a Star Trek episode and then later spent an awful lot of time complaining about it.



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#3477894 - 12/20/11 01:09 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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And a masterpiece of a screenplay for "I Robot". Say what you will about Ellison the man (cantankerous codgy old coot), he know's how to write good Sci-Fi.

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#3477915 - 12/20/11 01:24 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Darkstar]
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And a masterpiece of a screenplay for "I Robot".
His was obviously rejected since it was the screenplay by Akiva Goldsman that got turned into the film with Will Smith. I would have liked to have seen how the movie would have turned out differently though had his screenplay been adapted.
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#3478346 - 12/21/11 05:12 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Will Smith would've been a bitter old man that complained about everything, mostly about how little talent there was out there.



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#3480782 - 12/24/11 03:01 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Alfred Bester. One of the most under-appreciated SF greats of the 20th century. Read The Stars My Destination and tell me this guy wasn't a master. He has more happen in 300 pages than most writers can get into 1500. He won the first Hugo given out, in 1953.
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#3480843 - 12/24/11 05:20 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Woxof]
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Alfred Bester. One of the most under-appreciated SF greats of the 20th century. Read The Stars My Destination and tell me this guy wasn't a master. He has more happen in 300 pages than most writers can get into 1500. He won the first Hugo given out, in 1953.


More recent generations may know the name from Babylon 5, as Walter Koenigs character was named after him.

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#3480908 - 12/24/11 09:09 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Babylon 5 is the show that finally gave Walter Koenig the opportunity to demonstrate his full range of acting skills.

I love Star Trek but Chekov didn't have much depth.


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#3481837 - 12/26/11 11:06 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Babylon 5 is the show that finally gave Walter Koenig the opportunity to demonstrate his full range of acting skills.

I love Star Trek but Chekov didn't have much depth.

I had no clue he was part of that cast. Now I will have to find a way to watch that series.


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#3481934 - 12/27/11 05:00 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Timothy Zahn did some Star Wars books and they are good. It had more depth then Lucas can put in his morning cereal.


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#3481936 - 12/27/11 05:04 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: wheelsup_cavu]
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Babylon 5 is the show that finally gave Walter Koenig the opportunity to demonstrate his full range of acting skills.

I love Star Trek but Chekov didn't have much depth.

I had no clue he was part of that cast. Now I will have to find a way to watch that series.


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He was only a recurring guest star so he shows up on about 10 episodes.
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#3481965 - 12/27/11 06:10 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Yet every appearance was worthy. He even raised the level of eps with Byron. smile



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#3481974 - 12/27/11 06:26 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Jedi Master]
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He even raised the level of eps with Byron. smile



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#3482028 - 12/27/11 07:46 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Possibly the worst character in SF television I can recall...or rather fail to purge from my memory.



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#3482045 - 12/27/11 08:07 AM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: Jedi Master]
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Possibly the worst character in SF television I can recall...or rather fail to purge from my memory.



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Yeah I agree with that.

While I don't think Beverly and Wesley Crusher are as bad as Byron, they're still pretty dull and lame IMHO.

Oh, and I should also add Monica Reyes from the X-Files to the list. She was just simply dull and forgettable.
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#3482229 - 12/27/11 12:40 PM Re: The "golden age" of sci-fi literature [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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There are characters that bore you and instill apathy, then are those you loathe that stir antipathy.
The Crushers and Reyes are the former, Byron is the latter.



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