I'm about 10 days into this game and still haven't had anything close to fun.

I have read and re-read trying to figure this game out, but no joy as yet..

In Reference to the control settings. When I fire the guns the zoom zooms in which ruins the heck out of my visual
reference to any target.

I use CH controls and track IR and have the zoom out set to a button, but this zooming out each time is still is a pain.
Is there a default setting that causes this zoom in action every time I shoot?
I hate to start deleting those controls settings without knowing what I am doing.

You can always reset to default, so start changing things to your liking, and then save under a different name.

Also remember to 'apply to fly', otherwise your changes will not take.

RoF isn't any more complicated than other combat flight sims, and yes, it is worth the learning curve so please stick with it for your own enjoyment's sake.

You just have buttons that are conflicting. Just go into controls and change any settings that are conflicting. It's no different a process than any other sim. Click on an action you want to change and then hit a new key or joystick button.

Jason

O.K., then u guys are saying that there is not some "in-game master setting" that is causing it to zoom in
when shooting etc" but that there is a conflict somewhere...
great, what I am now wondering is...which of those 50 or so camera, head etc control settings might be causing this conflict.

It's not that big of deal Papa. Look at the different categories and familiarize yourself with all the controls and key commands. Just like you probably did with all the other sims that you own. In your case you probably have a couple things programmed for Head Zoom which can be programmed to an axis or Head Zoom In and Head Zoom Out which is meant for a button or key stroke.

Jason

Well, having the default button (I guess will bring all controls to normal) helps
I deleted a few things and that zoom in seems to be gone now.

I have spent hours and hours in the controls section going back and forth between deleting something the getting back in the aircraft and
checking it out. It is just very very time consuming.

I only have one other game. Il2. I'm not an avid gamer.

I just thought I'd try this game because it is a flying game.

I may have the controls set fine for now, but tweeking the aircraft via that responses thing is my next attack scenario.
after i do a change & hit save/apply & go to the load button & then to an aircraft.
I do not notice any changes and I don't know if I am getting it into my game or not.
That nice tutorial is o.k. but the fellow keeps referring to "just like before...but I don't know how it worked before...

Ha Ha. at 72 things like learning these damn computer operations is very slow work...

You can tweak the controls while flying. Just pause the game and open the menu (no need to reload the mission).

Be glad you didn't get DCS - Those jet age sims require quite a bit of tweaking (there are a lot more controls to map + the response curves)

I guess all of u younger guys were raised with these computer games, but they are a big mystery to me...ha ha..

I think I have my basic controls set well enough for now though. I can see that the devs have done a lot of work since I last (two years ago) tried this game & just gave up in total frustration.

right now I have been trying to fly7 the Camel, but when I release the controls it goes into a loop.

I have been trying to temper the nose up a bit, but I must be missing a step because it does not pickup when I go
back into the game to fly it.

I save, I apply and I load it...Don't know what I'm doing wrong...

I have watched the guys video on responses, but I think he is leaving out an important part of the explanation because it ain't worken for me...

May I suggest trying something other than the Camel? It's just about the most ornery plane in RoF! No wonder you're not having any fun...

My recommendation would be to try a career with either the Albatros II, the n.11 or n.17, or the Sopwith Pup.

Papa, I'm on the backside of the '40s myself, and I only started fooling around with computers eight years ago, so I know how frustrating some of this can be. I will tell you, RoF is worth the pain. Once you get into it, you'll have a blast.

I've recently been playing with the 'curves' section myself, and I think I'm just going to go back to using the trim wheel on my CH stick to take care of the elevator trim. Trying to set individual curves is a real pain in the @$$ for me, and no one curve fits all aircraft.

I can't fly the Camel (or any other rotary as far as that goes) to save my life. I would suggest starting with the SE5, Bristol, or RE8 if you want to fly Entente. Then work your way into the more difficult planes. I'm no noob when it comes to sim flying either. I started on Il-2 about eight years ago, and I beta-tested RoF. I just can't get the hang of those rotaries and the gyroscopic effect they have.