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#3410629 - 10/15/11 04:35 AM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: Papa_K]
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The whole steering lag thing seems to be a tricky one to fix. Some people have no problem whatsoever, others had it completely fixed with 0.73 and it still remains for many. I had massive lag issues with Shift2 but CARS seems fine for me. I'm sure they will nail it down eventually. Very frustrating in the meantime though. frown

The devs word on the gear change delay is that they are accurately modelling the gear linkage which means the cars do have this delay in real life. Many people have said this feels a bit weired so there's some discussion as to if it will remeain. I suspect those people with steering lag might also be getting the same thing with shifting too.

Originally Posted By: Papa_K
The odd thing was that it didn't immediately recognize the G27 properly. It listed G7 with separate pedals, but showed gamepad mappings. Cycling around it came back to normal, but it wasn't pre-mapped. Clutch is unassigned, and I can't change it.

With the new build I found it worked better by setting up a custom profile. If you look in the program folder there's also an alternate .exe that uses different FF code. It game me a good peformance boost but the FF felt slightly odd - some other people seem to like it though. I beleive that the clutch isn't mappable yet. While on track you can also press F1 to bring up the developer menu. This gives you access all sorts of technical stuff.

Originally Posted By: Papa_K
Is there a way to get rid of (or lessen) the fore/aft viewpoint movement when you hit brakes/throttle? I suppose I could get used to it, but I'd rather tighten the belts and do some neck exercises.


Yeah, i'm not keen on that kind of thing either. Hopefully we'll get the opton to change it in the future.


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#3410797 - 10/15/11 12:09 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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To get rid of the head movement, turn World Movement down. I think it's bugged though, sometimes the view is slanted.

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#3410800 - 10/15/11 12:17 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: Coutie]
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There's a nice explanation of the world movement function from Andy here (3rd post down)

http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?294-World-movement-slider-bug&highlight=movement
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#3410822 - 10/15/11 12:49 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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Another bug I have is if I turn the wheel like 30 degrees the car just changes directions so fast, it makes it really hard to drive.

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#3410848 - 10/15/11 01:24 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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I've just noticed I still have steering lag. Driving fast, I move the wheel to the left 45 degrees or so quickly, but the car only reacts when I get to 45 degrees. The wheel in the cockpit seems to line up with what I am really doing, but the car is still behind maybe .2 or .3 of a second.

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#3410854 - 10/15/11 01:36 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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Too early to really comment on game quality, but it's nice to see development energy being invested in a real simulation instead of getting EAs Shift 2012, 2013...

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#3410888 - 10/15/11 02:32 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: Coutie]
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Originally Posted By: Coutie
I've just noticed I still have steering lag. Driving fast, I move the wheel to the left 45 degrees or so quickly, but the car only reacts when I get to 45 degrees. The wheel in the cockpit seems to line up with what I am really doing, but the car is still behind maybe .2 or .3 of a second.


I'm sure it's not but - Speed sensitive steering?
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#3410902 - 10/15/11 02:52 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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I've turned that off. Maybe it was just in my head, I tried the test track and it seemed okay. Or maybe it was lag because I noticed it in a race with a bunch of AI.

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#3411040 - 10/15/11 07:11 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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Still have issues with DX11 with new build, despite refreshing my drivers for my NVidia GeForce 480X.

Lag is still there even with lowered gfx settings. BTW how do you check your framerate there? It's not big and but evident with stationery car. The front wheels are reacting with tiny delay. What worries me, after reading WDM forum, is fact that none of the developers experience any lag or admits it. How will they cure the illness they don't seem to see? Maybe I will record the video and send them :-) They are many posters who say they don't have any lag, which puzzles me. My guess is that they simply have brains that let them with live with it and adjust their reactions.

The lag is so small for me I can enjoy driving off the limit, but when I need to do ultra quick reaction** with steering things go wrong

** the reaction like Lewis did in last corner of his Korea pole lap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hut-YFi45zc&feature=related
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#3411063 - 10/15/11 07:54 PM Re: C.A.R.S Pre-alpha released to Team members [Re: F19_CoNa]
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It seems that when you need to do something fast, it takes too long, and then you have to correct that, and that takes too long, and so on and so on until you hit the wall.

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