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#3468445 - 12/05/11 08:47 PM Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!!  
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http://www.gamersmint.com/ps3-skyrim-lag-problems-unlikely-to-be-solved-dev-comments

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It appears the memory and lag problems that many PS3 users whove played Skyrim for a prolonged period of time are unlikely to get a permanent solution. This can be deduced after reading through a developers clarification whos worked on New Vegas explaining the problem.

For the uninitiated, Fallout: New Vegas- another title produced by Bethesda suffered from the same framerate drops and lag issues as their newest title The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is.

Answering a question from a user whos faced a similar lag problem in New Vegas after his save file went up to 14 megs, the developer said that its a major problem, especially on the PS3, offering the following explanation.

That can easily be a big problem, especially if youre on the PS3. The longer you play a character, the more bit differences on objects (characters, pencils on tables, containers, etc.) get saved off and carried around in memory. I think weve seen save games that are pushing 19 megs, which can be really crippling in some areas.

Since youre a developer, you should understand the implication of what I wrote. Its an engine-level issue with how the save game data is stored off as bit flag differences compared to the placed instances in the main .esm + DLC .esms. As the game modifies any placed instance of an object, those changes are stored off into what is essentially another .esm. When you load the save game, youre loading all of those differences into resident memory.

Its not like someone wrote a function and put a decimal point in the wrong place or declared something as a float when it should have been an int. Were talking about how the engine fundamentally saves off and references data at run time. Restructuring how that works would require a large time commitment. Obsidian also only had that engine for a total of 18 months prior to F:NV being released, which is a relatively short time to understand all of the details of how the technology works.

He further confirmed that these problems are only common with PS3 users as the console has a divided memory pool.

As with Fallout 3 and Skyrim, the problems are most pronounced on the PS3 because the PS3 has a divided memory pool.

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#3468486 - 12/05/11 10:02 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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what is a ps3? It runs great on my ASUS PC. everything else is irrelevant...


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#3468497 - 12/05/11 10:11 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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#3468504 - 12/05/11 10:21 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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#3468526 - 12/05/11 10:59 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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it affects all plataforms, more so on ps3.

#3468531 - 12/05/11 11:07 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted By: Blade_RJ
it affects all plataforms, more so on ps3.


From your own article...

"He further confirmed that these problems are only common with PS3 users as the console has a divided memory pool"

Also, Runs fine on my PC....Quit trying to get a rise out of people.

#3468536 - 12/05/11 11:12 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Runs fine on my PC. Big boy games like Skyrim should never have been made console anyway.


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#3468556 - 12/05/11 11:45 PM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Section_Eight]  
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Originally Posted By: Section_Eight
Originally Posted By: Blade_RJ
it affects all plataforms, more so on ps3.


From your own article...

"He further confirmed that these problems are only common with PS3 users as the console has a divided memory pool"

Also, Runs fine on my PC....Quit trying to get a rise out of people.


all plataforms, he said common as in repetition,not exclusivity, it can and does happen on xbox360 tough there is a fix around, and it could happen on pc if you guys are really putting that mny hours to it, but i doubt it, i dont think we will see a savegame that big to affect pc,i have lots of junk at the house problably more then 200 itens in the same room,with no performance hit.

and get a rise out of people ? meeeeeeee ? what tiped you off,dang i knew i should not use caps in the title.

#3468599 - 12/06/11 01:32 AM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Agree with blade on this. Bethesda should be ashamed for continuing to allow such sloppy execution to mar th eir amazing games.
Can't make it work properly on PS3? Then dont release it on that platform and dupe people out of their money! They need to get their asses sued for knowlingly releasing such a broken product, at least oc PS3, if indeed it cant be fixed.


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#3468601 - 12/06/11 01:38 AM Re: Skyrim is broken is will never get fixed......NEVER !!! [Re: Mace71]  
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33
Runs fine on my PC. Big boy games like Skyrim should never have been made console anyway.


Would that this were true. This "big boy game" was built from the ground up with console limitations in mind, which explains the mediocre (at least for a triple A 2011 title) graphics, clunky UI, and general lack of optimizaion for the hardware capabilities of todays computers (i.e., nonative usage of 4gb). Unlike BF3, The PC got no love at all. Big boy gameworld and ideas, console kiddie tech. And i dont say this as a hater, b/c Oblivion is one of my favorite games. I was ready to love Skyrim.


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