This one looks good : http://www.aeroflyfs.com/index.php/de/

Quote 'The new flight simulator aeroflyFS makes a splash from the start. There has never been a flight simulator with such a perfect flight physics in connection with such elaborate graphics! Convince yourself of the quality and performance of the brand new aeroflyFS
.In addition to the performance of the graphics and also the price of aeroflyFS is sensational. Only 39,99 € will be an introductory price! The two discs contain all of the flight simulator, aircraft and high-resolution landscape. Go for it!'.

Have a look at the videos. The Extra looks very impressive as does the Swiss scenery.

wow that looks good whens it coming out?

It does look very promising.

Whoa!

Hm. ATC? Airliners? More than just Switzerland?

I'd be happy to cruise round the Alps for a while..but I can see the limitaions.

Wow. My jaw is on the floor. If only I knew German, I would have bought it already.

EDIT: Would like to know when this is coming out also.

Looks like fun!

It certainly looks good. But hmm.. I smell something funny. Perhaps it's the smell of a commercial rip-off based on the Flightgear freeware sim. At least, the size and the extent of professionalism of their advertisement-front, the website, is very small. Normally €45 a piece A-class games (such as MS FS, X-plane, etc.) get a massive and complete website. Even more when a publisher is already contracted.

However, not gonna criticize yet. Just seemed to me a little like a project set up by a few fans.

I don't think it's Flight Gear based. It looks like these guys have been in RC Simulation for a long time, and decided to make a full-size flight simulation based on their RC sim engine.

http://www.aerofly.com/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXFmpiw7TSU

That looks incredible. Do want.

Aerofly has been around for a while as an RC simulator...

http://www.aerofly.com/

It's considered one of the better ones in those regards. I'd expect it to be a fixed wing version of take on helicopters.High on Physics and graphics, low on systems.

I just ordered it. Will post a mini-review-ette when I get it

Is it out yet, or is it just a pre-order?

It doesn't yet show on my credit card, which is normal as I'm using a British card living in the US and ordering from Germany. I guess. I did e-mail them as it's not clear at all on the site (I read German) as to the status of the software and if it's out or in pre-order status.

I'll post if (when) I learn anything.

From IKARUS;

Subject: AW: aeroflyFS für Windows release date
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:51:08 +0100

Will be released just before Christmas, english version next year.

Best regards

I'm getting the German version. Can't wait!

Cool. I wonder if it's closed sim, or there is a place for modders.

Wow cool, the videos look really nice, will be interested to hear how it is even if it is a TOH style limited area sim, it could be fun.

Awesome. I wonder if there's a way to replace the German text to English. I don't really care for voices in English. I just want a sim that can successfully replicate aerobatics in a realistic fashion.

Looks amazing... MUCH BETTER graphically than Xplane 10: better use of life-like global lighting, very good realistic reflections shaders, realistic and detailed all altitude landscape!!! WOW! and the physics seems very good too!

I just hope it won't be a hardware Hog like FSX and that it will be as moddable as FSX...

Keep in mind though from the videos it looks like it has no real weather besides wind, AI traffic or ATC, so it seems like it might be a great limited area flight sim, but not necessarily a full fledged FSX / XP10 style world flight simulator, at least just from what I can tell on the web site and the nice videos.

Could be very fun indeed though if they did it right.

It seems it has weather at least that's what Yahoo is telling me the banner is saying lol.

Details about what the sim has/hasn't:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/sh...ll=1#post655008

It isn't that bad for a first iteration. If they are seriously thinking about joining simulation market they will use this version as a foundation and improve it in future. XPlane got ATC in tenth version for example, you can't expect a newcomer to beat FSX or XPlane.

I hope for some nice soaring there.

It looks like this one is available (if you translate the German to English on their site). Anyone have it yet? Interested in hearing some feedback...

I just got notified by Ikarus that my copy shipped, with the German manual. Which is exactly when they said it would. A little unnerving for a software company to do that.

Crap. The USPS tried to deliver it today. Can't pick it up till Tues!

Did they say when it would be available for purchase in the US? It would be nice to pickup in a Wally World.

I can if they wan't to compete with X-plane and FSX for my money

Business Basics 101: The market doesn't care how late to the party you are; they care that your not wearing the same dress as anyone else (ie, is your product innovative?) and did you bring anything good for the buffet (are your features up to snuff?).

Plus,the Aerofly team ISN'T a new comer. They've been doing this flight sim thing for a while...

...Just with smaller planes They're an RC Flight sim developer.

I'm not surprised that all Aerofly has going for it is physics/graphics. An RC sim is still simulating physical flight,just not advanced systems, navigation, or communication. And that's exactly what Aeroflys weakness's are.

of note, with their latter RC iterations, they began to offer full-scale RC planes (such as a full size spitfire flown with your RC sim transmitter) as a fun extra, so they've been doing their full scale flight model Homework. Also, Aerofly's competitor, RealFlight, has started offering "FPV" flight, from your RC planes cockpit, so this probably evolved from an answer to that that as well.

Basically, this looks like a fun little side project for the devs. I'm not expecting this to go much further though, especially with flight around the corner.

I'll be picking it up tomorrow, and have the day off apart from a little volunteer work. Anything in particular anyone wants checking out.? Happy to get screenies, etc.

Since your offering.


I'd like to see some more shots of cockpits, namely the F-18.

Thanks!

Anyone got any more feedback on this?

I'm not too stressed about the lack of systems but flight modelling is very important to me. How do the planes handle?

On all the videos I've seen, I'll say one thing. The airplanes fly like they are blown up RC models that can do 3D aerobatics. Have you seen any videos of the E300 or the Pitts doing a snap roll? The airplane goes from 150kts to about 30kts in a matter of seconds. It's like they have no weight to them.

The flight physics don't look that bad do they? The planes don't move like they're on rails, it's hard to tell without hands on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbs0myDheaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The lighting effects are to die for though.....

I'm talking about more along the lines of aerobatic physics..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0iifI1aqWE

That's not what a real snap roll should look like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu3BfXKstJ4

.. It just looks like the airplanes have no weight to them, is all.

That Tuckie guy has quite a few vids on YouTube. Here's one comparing roll rate. The Aerofly one does look a bit fast but tbh it's hard to compare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6CtXSnN7Qs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

There's quite a long thread over at a Avsim, people with the German version seem to quite like Aerofly as a pick up and play sim. The soaring seems to be quite well done, I might give this a go just for that.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/355656-flight-vs-aerofly-fs/page__st__100

Looks like we're finally beginning to see a new generation of civ flight sims. First Take On, now this. Good call of those developers to focus on what MSFS typically did not do very well: helicopters, soaring, and advanced aerobatics. Here's hoping we'll see a worthy successor to Flight Unlimited one day

This isn't a flight sim, it's a RC Simulator. Designed for practise to simulate RC planes/heli's etc..

It's designed for the user to be using their own RC transmitter. I used to have a previous version of it. Photorealistic scenery has been around for years in these sims.

Sorry, that is not true. AeroFly1-5 were indeed R/C sims, but AeroflyFS is definitely a flight sim.

Does this look like an RC aircraft to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGN35BeYkeE&feature=related

AS Johan says this reminds me of Flight Unlimited back in the day.

I can see there's a market for a small area GA type sim with STOL, Aerobatic planes, Soaring and Heli's. With a small map making it high detail becomes feasible. Getting the physics right is the most important thing, it sounds like it still needs work.

Hopefully a UK version is on the cards. I tried to buy from the international site and with tax and postage it wanted 100Euros.......

Edit.....

I know its just eye candy but its hard to not buzz off details like the flags blowing in the wind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZwLM_mVzo&feature=related

Ah sorry, I was getting mixed up with Aerofly 5.

Sounds kinda like MS Flight...?

Are you sure Mogster, i have it sat in my cart saying:


Total :38,79 €

Tax :6,19 €

Shipping and Handling :15,00 €

Grand total : 53,79 €


To the UK..

Think i might give it a go

Edit: Sure you didn't add 2 items to your cart!

Edit2: Just noticed it also says: For foreign customers: correct shipping charge will be added accordingly

I have emailed them asking them if 15euros is the correct charge for the UK

Have you gone right to the end? I had an extra blob of shipping and tax added.......

As far as tab number 4 I think. Entered visa details and stopped at make payment.
Those values above were copied directly from the website.

So has anyone tried this sim out yet? If so whats it like. Is it like FSX or xplane.Maybe someone could give some details about it.

Also is this a radio control program? From the youtube videos its like a flightsim.

Google reviews. There are a few user reviews out there, I found them easily enough today.
It's not fsx or xp. I read the physics are more like xplane but someone else said they feel like giant rc planes.

Read up on the things it has and hasn't got, as it is it's quite a basic sim.
Can't change time of day
No AI aircraft
Engines always on
Non clickable vc
No navigation as in fsx and xp

But... It looks very nice and looks to fly very realistic to me. It reminds me of an old favourite of mine Flight Unlimited.
Willing to give it a go if I can get an answer on shipping, my 3 year old will love it.

Edit: After watching more video's i have to agree that it looks to fly more like a RC sim.
I am a RC flyer and have or have owned most rc sims over the many years, including aerofly 5 that i still have. Alot of the gui in the video's looks just like aerofly 5.
Not saying this is a bad thing, but it does look like it's running the same engine as af5. there are full scale aircraft in af5 also, it really does look like the rc version in many respects.

I get 53.79 Euros now, as you say I must have had 2 copies in my basket.

3% by ordering via internet

Total :

38,79 €

Tax (incl.):

6,19 €

Shipping and Handling::

15,00 €

Grand Total:

53,79 €

For foreign customers: correct shipping charge will be added accordingly

Edit..…

I've put my money where my mouth is and ordered this. I don't see how postage from Germany can be more than €15.

Let me know when you find out how much you have been charged.

Tried contacting them, but as usual customer support from ikarus is not good, and i've had no response! had this problem before with aerofly 5.

That's all that's stopping me from buying ;(

My copy arrived today

I have an invoice for 49Euro, postage seems to be have been 10Euro. So far Ikarus haven't charged my card........

Just started the sim and spent about 60 mins configuring and then flying around.

The Good

-Setup very easy, nice controls GUI. If you have just one stick Aerofly will configure it for you.
-Graphics are amazing, set to high the terrain looks great with good colours.
-Performance is very good, solid 60FPS.
-Rapid load times,just instant.
-Nice feeling of flight, somewhere close to ROF.
-Great lighting/shadows.

The Bad

-Very few autogen buildings, just flat images on the terrain. This may account for the performance.
-Flight modelling and physics feels nice but there seems to be some strangeness at high control inputs. The 172 pitches around oddly if you pull the stick full back for instance.
-No other planes in the world currently.

Overall I'm having fun with this for not a lot of cash. The terrain looks gorgeous, its not perfect very low down but other than that it surpasses anything I've seen in FSX. The physics are nice but even to my untrained eye some of the flight models seem a little odd if you push the envelope.

Thanks for the heads up.. mine also actually arrived today, just installing now!

I ended up calling the UK number and ordered over the phone. I have a final bill of 47.99 euros. Strange pricing system!