Who is going to be an ewok?

Jedi, have you actually tried the game? If you don't like raiding or PvP, you don't have to do them. And yes, KOTOR had healers (surely you haven't forgotten the Jedi's healing skills).

Yes, the combat is a bit different from KOTOR since you can't pause or have combat rounds in a MMO. But otherwise, it's very much like KOTOR. You'd really be missing out if you skip it.

How can it be like KOTOR if it's got 95% of what every other MMO has in terms of game mechanics?

When they started this, they sold it as "KOTOR 3+4+5 etc with MP", but it just sounds like "SWG in TOR era" to me. This has been designed to appeal to the MMO-hopping crowd instead of trying to make a game that would appeal to the non-MMO players. I guess devs have no idea how to make an MMO that's not copying WoW, or at the least can't get the publishers to fund one.

Oh, something can be a failure while still succeeding financially. How many here would call the SW prequels a failure, despite them grossing well over a billion dollars worldwide? They failed because they were not what they wanted or expected from SW films.



The Jedi Master

I wanted to play for the Republic, but I love the Bounty Hunter Class so that is where I will stay.

I'll be going PVP as well, I'm not a big fan of PVE MMO's.

I don't understand... so this is a MMO with a monthly fee? Then why is the price 80 bucks? (at Origin). Just wondering...not intrested in the game anyway.

Well, there are two costs. Buying a copy of the software and then the monthly subscription fee. The $80 version you mentioned is probably the game with a month or two included.

Actually that would probably be one of the two versions of collectors editions.

The normal purchase is $59.99
Deluxe Edition is $79.99
Collectors Edition is $149.99

http://buy.swtor.com/us/

Or you can get it for $500.00-$700.00 at Amazon...LOL!!!
What is even worse is look at the list price on the page.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005B8DRVU/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Who ever said it was going to be KOTOR 3? Do you have any links that say it was marketed as such? I ALWAYS expected an MMORPG.





Did the Jane's F/A-18 devs copy the Falcon 4.0 devs? They are both theme park MMORPGs just like JF-18 and F4 are both study sims.

What are you referring to? Combat in TOR is basically the same as KOTOR. Most of the gameplay is similar.



Funny that you say that, because I was reading the beta forums last weekend, and the MMO-hopping crowd definitely disagrees with you. They're all whining that there aren't enough raids and so on for them to grind on after they get done power leveling. The people who are going to enjoy this game the most IMO are those willing to take their time and enjoy the story, especially those willing to play several characters to see the different story lines in the game.

You realize that "solo-friendly" is the trend in most MMOs, right? In fact TOR goes further than any other MMO I've played. You can get help in any role with a companion, and build a full (non-raid) group with just one friend (2 players, 2 companions). Thanks to that, with one friend you can probably do 99% of the game content. Solo, maybe 95%.

TBH it seems like you're hung up on the word "MMO". You'll do what you please of course but I still think you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't at least try the game when they offer a free trial.

I know it's just the beta but, by any chance, did you try to use a companion in Black Talon. We had a 4 man group but one guy dropped so I pulled my Inquisitor pet to use as a tank. It was almost like he was not there. In the fight but got his ass kicked.

While soloing on Korriban, having him around was like playing on easy mode!

God, I can not wait for release... 12 more days !!!!!