Flamengo has much more,should numbers matter ?

I don't know. Maybe because of things like this?

http://larrybrownsports.com/soccer/sporting-fans-light-soccer-stadium-on-fire/101043

Maybe Larry has forgotten all about the infamous 'Ten Cent Beer night'. Its not as if soccer/football fans have a monopoly on violent idiocy. Business as usual for baseball fans, Luke? Gosh, I never knew it had such a violent following!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Cent_Beer_Night

Heres a wee excerp....

'After the Indians had managed to tie the game, a fan ran onto the field and attempted to steal Texas outfielder Jeff Burroughs' cap. Confronting the fan, Burroughs tripped.

Texas manager Billy Martin, thinking that Burroughs had been attacked, charged onto the field, his players right behind, some wielding bats.[2] A large number of intoxicated fans – some armed with knives, chains, nunchaku and portions of stadium seats that they had torn apart – surged onto the field, and others hurled bottles from the stands.

Realizing that the Rangers' lives might be in danger, Ken Aspromonte, the Indians' manager, ordered his players to grab bats and help the Rangers, attacking the team's own fans in the process. Rioters began throwing steel folding chairs, and Cleveland relief pitcher Tom Hilgendorf was hit in the head by one of them. Hargrove, involved in a fistfight with a rioter, had to fight another on his way back to the Texas dugout.

Among the Indians players suddenly running for their lives was Torres. In his career, Torres wound up seeing three big-league baseball riots close up; he was with the New York Yankees at the Senators' final game in Washington in 1971 and would be with the Chicago White Sox during the infamous Disco Demolition Night in 1979.

The bases were pulled up and stolen (never to be returned) and many rioters threw a vast array of objects including cups, rocks, bottles, batteries from radios, hot dogs, popcorn containers, and folding chairs. As a result, umpire crew chief Nestor Chylak, realizing that order would not be restored in a timely fashion, forfeited the game to Texas. He too was a victim of the rioters as one struck him with part of a stadium seat, cutting his head.[3] His hand was also cut by a thrown rock. He later called the fans "uncontrollable beasts" and stated that he'd never seen anything like what had happened, "except in a zoo".[4]

'Disco Demolition night' is even funnier. Baseball is so civilised!

Biggles, you aren't telling me anything I don't already know about the history of baseball.

Hint: both of those incidents were one-time stunts by the ownership to boost attendance. Not to mention, Bill Veeck was one of the (if not the) craziest owners in baseball (he was known for a number of other "odd" promotional ideas. Furthermore, it was the 70s. Not exactly the most peaceful time in America.

Raise the issue when you see the type of hooliganism regularly occurring at soccer matches starting to regularly occur at MLB games.

Luke, lighten up man. You were maybe being a little lofty and insinuating that people behaving like idiots was somehow a solely 'Euro/soccer' phenomena. Not really. 'Kick offs' happen all the time in the US, even Gridiron.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...tball-riot.html

I also distinctly remember Maryland students rioting as their team lost a College football final maybe 8-9 years ago or so....and lots of people got injured. I used to follow Gridiron quite closely and there have been quite a few other riot type incidents too.

Point is, human beings in large crowds will occasionally act like idiots wherever, and whatever sport. Yes, football is far worse in terms of violence, no doubt and agreed. 70's and 80's were the worst. Have to say I've never seen anything like that in any game in England I've ever been to though. Ever....though I'm quite young. Fights yes, not full scale wars lol. Nunchakus? Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting, those Cats was fast as lightning!

Joking aside though, yes they are all d*ck heads of the highest order. Absolutely disgusting and uncalled for.

well, if we're talking about half of a country's population the answer is yes the point is that porto is a local team and benfica is a national team.
What happened on this game is not very common here, but sometimes happens and usually between Benfica, sporting and porto! a shame! hooliganism is a crap.

Cheers

In all fairness American sports fan wait to riot in the streets burning cars and businesses. ;-P

And that was my point.