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#3462762 - 11/26/11 07:54 PM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: ATAG_Snapper]
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#3462807 - 11/26/11 09:12 PM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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Originally Posted By: knightgames
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http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/calendar.html


Just decided to look and post back, myself. You beat me to the question.

Cool. Not much detail though. In the first month there are only about 3 mentions on the type of wind situation. Not something that could be used to create a kind of satellite "motion capture" of cloud layer, with wind direction and all the trimmings.

Would we really want a complex weather simulation, or would we have been satisfied with 10° wind directions, areas of light cloud, areas of heavy clouds, clear, fog and gradual changes? There was also an interview somewhere with a dev (not from 1C) on 3D cloud masses, polygons and the removal of the non visible parts. What I'm trying to say is, they could have kept some aspects simple, but they went for complex to the Nth degree. Now we beter hope they can pull it of.


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#3462918 - 11/27/11 02:45 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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Yeah, I discovered that too, JAMF. Still gives a perspective, just not very in depth.

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#3462952 - 11/27/11 06:23 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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Im not asking for super detailed huge clouds, but some overcast to add to the immersion.
It is waaay too sunny.

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#3462981 - 11/27/11 08:35 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: JAMF]
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Originally Posted By: JAMF

Would we really want a complex weather simulation, or would we have been satisfied with 10° wind directions, areas of light cloud, areas of heavy clouds, clear, fog and gradual changes? There was also an interview somewhere with a dev (not from 1C) on 3D cloud masses, polygons and the removal of the non visible parts. What I'm trying to say is, they could have kept some aspects simple, but they went for complex to the Nth degree. Now we beter hope they can pull it of.


Yup, I want an option with lots of air-movement so that I can join a 1930s glider club... of course, it'll be a while before the mod tools give us those... but I would like an option for such weather someday.

Anyway, you've found a major issue for the sim in general - they came up with the ultimate design, the perfect simulator. They then tried to build it. Look at how far the MQ-9 series of drones has come compared to the the major UCAS projects... or look up the Bomber-B program compared to the Dornier bombers...

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#3462995 - 11/27/11 09:13 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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This website has a detailed Diary containing almost daily weather maps and descriptions covering the period June - November 1940
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#3463047 - 11/27/11 10:56 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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Originally Posted By: motoadve
Im not asking for super detailed huge clouds, but some overcast to add to the immersion.
It is waaay too sunny.


Here's a recent thread that gives an idea of what is possible in CoD, but unfortunately at the price of framerates (per your original post):

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3426110/Wow_those_clouds_huh.html#Post3426110

The clouds move and there are some astonishing time lapse videos of early sunrise clouds in CoD that look quite real - like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7TOKuTP2k
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#3463081 - 11/27/11 12:20 PM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: ATAG_Snapper]
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There is some potential for sure as demonstrated by this video, but they do need to have a guy really knowledgeable about , weather, clouds, and weather/clouds dynamics...Seeing those clouds makes me cringe each time: they feel completely random (granted, they appear only over land, which shows some parameter applies) in their shape, but such clouds cannot exist...before at least 2 or 3 hours more, when the sun is a lot higher in the sky and has begun heating the ground up by a minimum amount.
The normal evolution is for those clouds to either grow more, become higher in the sky and quickly acquiring a flat base, or to disappear altogether, as the air mass may be too dry to sustain clouds after sun-related heating up and air mixing...A lot of other things could happen, but for a nice sunny day of summer, this is about it!

I hope we may see one day a certain degree of coherency, there!

JV watching clouds (and flying around them!) since 54 years...


Edited by JVM (11/27/11 12:23 PM)

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#3463300 - 11/27/11 07:27 PM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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Once they get it all sorted i would love to see the complete BoB available with correct weather for each day.Would be brilliant smile Bring on some big thundering looking massive storm fronts too, towering up above to 40 thou, may not be great for air battles but it will be cool to see smile

Really really pining for taking off in inclement fog and drizzly bumpy drafty squalls , bust out at sunshine at 8-10 thou then hop over to a sunny France , nip in and strafe up a loco or an airfield then dart back through the wet weather moving across the channel and land at my now mildly sunny home field.
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#3463549 - 11/28/11 08:48 AM Re: Weather is not like UK [Re: motoadve]
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I am sure they'll get around to it and I'm VERY happy that the programming team have been super-ambitious, bordering on madly ambitious. You don't see that among many other game producers.

When we have computers that can run the complex weather they have created for CoD it will be a sight to behold.
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