thanks dave-
i followed the links on that site,
and i had downloaded it from there before.
i did it again (3 more times)
and got crc errors in all.
the installer refuses to install the corrupt files, so the install never works.
the last time, i extracted to a folder, ignored the error messages, then pasted into il2 46.
it seems to work- the install seems unstable, as it crashes sometimes, but usually it works.
i copied that install, and added dbw to it.
again with the crc errors, but i ignored them.
it also works.
tracy- i could burn the up3 files to cd, but you will need to copy/paste them into your game.
i dont really trust this install yet either- i fear there will be issues with it.