Because the story of the F-4 is a fasinating one indeed! The challenge of learning to fly that bird right, on full real settings, developes skill in that bird. Flying significant missions that are rewarding should be the meat of the sim. I'm not talking about that hollow Thirdwire BS, but a real simulator. I understand that you don't like not having 100% control over the features of the game, but truth be told, the idea for the game I have is similar to real life because testing of the F-4 had to be done long before that sled went into combat. It should be like that in any "full-real" sim of the bird as well.

If you want a full real settings sim of the F-4, then you would not get what you wanted Streak.... you would get something that you would probably not have much of an idea what to do with.

I was followiwng Rhino for SimHQ. Though this is the first time I've ever posted about it. I was asked to keep silent, so I did. I saw some of the advance work posted on this site. It was looking to be a real classic, too. Shame it didn't get any farther than it did.

Miao, Cat

The F-4 is my favorite AC. I would absolutely love a sim dedicated to the F-4 to include campaigns/missions for Vietnam/Gulf War on the level of Falcon4.0/DCS.

SFV2 is nice, but is not as nearly as indepth as I would like.

I don't think there will be more indepth sims like Jane's F-15, Jane's F-18 & Falcon 4.0. Because the makers of Flightsims don't see those kind of simulators profitable. Sadly

I would agree - there is NO chance of a commercial in-depth sim for any aircraft that is not in the front-line of public conciousness. The DCS a-10 will be the closest...

Meanwhile has anyone tried the add-on Phantom cockpit for FF5 by Aeyes?
See here

It looks very comprehensive, and I think that with a bit of effort a very passable Phantom environment could be created within FF5.
There are additional appropriate theatres available and we can all create appropriate missions.

???

Edit: Look at this FF5 manual there are several pages on the Phantom cockpit, including a Ramp Start procedure

Cheers
Keith

PS FF5 does NOT require a Falcon 4 CD, no matter what the website may say.

What is FF5?

Holy Cr*p! Free Falcon has morphed into quite a project and it's all free! Wow! I have been way out of the Falcon 4.0 loop for a long time, but did purchase some cockpits from Aeyes and can tell you they are exceptional works of art. May have to look at opening this game up again. Thanks for the insight.

Matt

FF5 is Free Falcon 5, the latest update to Falcon 4, which includes multiple other aircraft.
See comment
here at SimHQ.
Drawback is lots of the systems are hardcoded to the F-16. e.g you don't get to operate your own flaps, the radar is too sophisticated for the F-4 etc etc.

But in many ways it knocks the socks off all the other modern sims.

Cheers,
Keith

Thanks for the information

The link had died... Apparently the webhosting expired with the new year. Another promising title disappearing into history unfinished/unreleased.