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#3437098 - 11/19/11 02:32 AM F-102/F-106 Question  
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Why did they have such a funky stick? How did it operate and why was it more like a yoke than a stick? I recently read Angels Three-Six by Chuck Lehman and expected him to comment on it. I find that to be the funkiest stick I've ever seen in a plane (though probably there have been stranger ones).

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#3437105 - 11/19/11 02:48 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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Early HOTAS set up maybe (would make sense for a high speed interceptor since you don't want to be looking at anything but the radar in the final phase of the intercept) plus limited lateral room in cockpit since it really is cramped from side to side.

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#3437178 - 11/19/11 08:40 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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The stick setup was for the radar interface. Remember, this aircraft was designed to be a bomber interceptor using radar (a lot of manipulation and head down) at high altitudes using nuclear-tipped missiles. The left side of the stick was used for the radar manipulation. The right side functioned as a control stick for the aircraft. Not really a yoke at all, but a stick with a side extension for the radar controls.

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#3437564 - 11/20/11 01:16 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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I did get the chance to see a 106 up close and personal when we had one at our base for an airshow, many moons ago, and it was a very cramped pit with poor forward visibility.


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#3437574 - 11/20/11 01:41 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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They were designed in the "we are never gonna have another conventional war" era of the 1950s. A pure interceptor for the nuclear age.

#3437584 - 11/20/11 01:54 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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Updated original post with pictures of the stick.


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#3437938 - 11/20/11 07:26 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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I love where they put the radar. Right there high up and in front. Excellent placement.

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#3437940 - 11/20/11 07:29 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: WOLF257]  
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Originally Posted By: WOLF257
Early HOTAS set up maybe (would make sense for a high speed interceptor since you don't want to be looking at anything but the radar in the final phase of the intercept) plus limited lateral room in cockpit since it really is cramped from side to side.

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That website is mega detailed. If anyone ever wanted to do a sim starring the 106, this would be THE resource.

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#3437950 - 11/20/11 07:54 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Cat]  
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Originally Posted By: Cat
I love where they put the radar. Right there high up and in front. Excellent placement.

Mao, Cat

Is that sarcasm or do you think it is the best place for it to be located?
It seems like a good place for it to be located to me but I am not an airplane mechanic or pilot.


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#3437959 - 11/20/11 08:05 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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#3437983 - 11/20/11 08:46 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: wheelsup_cavu]  
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Originally Posted By: wheelsup_cavu
Originally Posted By: Cat
I love where they put the radar. Right there high up and in front. Excellent placement.

Mao, Cat

Is that sarcasm or do you think it is the best place for it to be located?
It seems like a good place for it to be located to me but I am not an airplane mechanic or pilot.


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In that type of aircraft, where you're putting your helmet right up to the display, I'd say it's a great place. This isn't a dogfighter, remember, and the pilot would never even get within visual range of his target, so flying head down is no problem.


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#3438032 - 11/20/11 10:12 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: wheelsup_cavu]  
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Originally Posted By: wheelsup_cavu
Originally Posted By: Cat
I love where they put the radar. Right there high up and in front. Excellent placement.

Mao, Cat

Is that sarcasm or do you think it is the best place for it to be located?
It seems like a good place for it to be located to me but I am not an airplane mechanic or pilot.

Wheels


I'm not being sarcastic. It reminds me of an earlier version of how the Mirage 2000's cockpit is set up. It drives me nuts in sims when the darn radarscope is waaaaaay down in the cockpit.

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The first US astronauts and a Delta Dart. Those 2nd Generation jets looked like sci-fi spaceships too.

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#3438098 - 11/21/11 12:08 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Cat]  
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Originally Posted By: Cat
Originally Posted By: wheelsup_cavu
Originally Posted By: Cat
I love where they put the radar. Right there high up and in front. Excellent placement.

Mao, Cat

Is that sarcasm or do you think it is the best place for it to be located?
It seems like a good place for it to be located to me but I am not an airplane mechanic or pilot.

Wheels

I'm not being sarcastic. It reminds me of an earlier version of how the Mirage 2000's cockpit is set up. It drives me nuts in sims when the darn radarscope is waaaaaay down in the cockpit.

Miao, Cat

That was what I thought about its location too. Nice and easy to find and use. thumbsup
It was just one of those times where I wasn't sure after reading your post.


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#3438124 - 11/21/11 12:59 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar
Great pic...



Hey, the middle guy in orange is Ronald Reagan! I knew he flew WWII Fighters but I didn't know he also flew Cold War Interceptors. biggrin


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I love the "unscripted" look of that picture. You know if it were done today the PR people would make sure that they all wore matching flight suits, boots etc.


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I just realized that is the Mercury 7 Astronauts. dizzy


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#3438319 - 11/21/11 05:13 AM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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#3438445 - 11/21/11 01:34 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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Of course, they later tried to make the 106 a better "fighter" ie not a pure interceptor, but I'm not sure it really would've been any good at all with that cockpit.




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#3438536 - 11/21/11 03:44 PM Re: F-102/F-106 Question [Re: Timothy]  
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They had the 87th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron still flying those out of KI Sawyer AFB in the early to mid 80's. I recall that our next door neighbor was a 106 pilot.


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